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Harness Racing / Re: Yonkers purses going up 15% go figure!
« Last post by harnessplop on Today at 02:50:18 AM »
Haha yup...ghetto people are dumb n needs to gamble
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Harness Racing / Re: Race 5 Mohawk
« Last post by Stripes on Today at 02:39:28 AM »
From the Senior Judges Report…..

Race 5 Clear. Reviewed the performance of race favourite # 1 Highland Kismet from before the start to the finish. We are aware of the pre, and post race comments made by driver Bob McClure. No further action required at this time. Will continue to monitor.
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Harness Racing / Re: No MAS IZZY
« Last post by MIKE CAMPBELL on Today at 02:18:13 AM »
Pena will just list another illegal spic
Correct! Why did it take so long to figure out? NJRC is either incompetent or criminal.
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Harness Racing / Re: No MAS IZZY
« Last post by R Kelly on Today at 01:35:05 AM »
Pena will just list another illegal spic
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Harness Racing / Re: No MAS IZZY
« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 12:32:02 AM »


  I hear that Izzy made the list.
  That being the excluded list and his entries will no longer be accepted
  at M1. That is what he gets for sticking it up the ass. Dropping close to
  3 seconds on first timers.

the return of eric/seldon ledford in a different decade?
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Harness Racing / No MAS IZZY
« Last post by freshlasix on Today at 12:29:36 AM »
 

  I hear that Izzy made the list.
  That being the excluded list and his entries will no longer be accepted
  at M1. That is what he gets for sticking it up the ass. Dropping close to
  3 seconds on first timers.
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You don't need a USTA license to get a state license.  I know this from personal experience.
This is true but if you don’t have a Usta license or are denied the state CAN and WILL use that as a reason for denying you. Ask Dee Cozzi.
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Ribs were showing on half of the Preakness runners
Look at her feet. Hasn’t been shod for months. Chicago guys are busted. No money to pay anyone. Langley dead so Eaton can’t sponge off him or stiff Jim jesk out of money. Poor old man had Alzheimer’s and when he came around to collect stall rent Eaton would tell him that he paid him already do the old man thought he did. Eaton stiff poor Jim jesk out of thousands
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Are people shoving needles and tubes into those dancers then having the public bet on them? I don't remember reading that the federal government indicted anyone on Broadway for selling non detectable drugs used on actors that caused their hearts to fail.

No (nor does everyone do it) .  If you think horse racing should be banned for all it's misgivings, so be it.  Breeding a mare over and over is cruel to some but yet you still eat burgers i'm guessing. Are you vegetarian because honestly sentinel animals from a purely ethical standpoint shouldn't be eaten.  But yet we do. 

From a strictly welfare point harness racing is no different then many other industries and organizations.  You hate harness racing because you think it is cruel and for the reprehensible behavior that many exibit.  But you conflate that and call it welfare, it isn't.  It just might make it a poor choice for monies if that's what one believes.

You obviously care about the horses and that's appreciated and respected by me but I do take exception to you calling it welfare (for the tenth time).  Also your take on Yonkers and Faraldo much respected by me. I get it is hard to be sympathetic to the Faraldos bilking Yonkers and the SOA.  But that is corruption.  To punish the people who have nothing to do with him seems unfair. 

For me I do have ethical issues about the sport, but I guess I am too ingrained in it.  Perhaps that makes me a hypocrite. But i'm a hypocrite everytime I take a bite of chicken. 

PS many of those ballerinas and dancers have been sexually abused.  Many are aneorexic and have stunted puberty and don't menstruate.  Same as gymnasts.  And people yet go and pay to see them.
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So what???  Tell us something new.  Does everone cry when Amazon gets millions of dollars in tax brakes to build a warehouse and creates worse and lower paying job.  One thing good about harness racing the jobs are hands on.  Not only that they create far more revenue for the state in taxes and jobs created then Amazon and others per dollars.  Did you cry when harness racing gave the states 25 percent of millions in the golden age?  Obviously there is rampant cheating issue but welfare is for people not working, at last check my harness trainers are mostly the hardest working people I know.

Take away subsidies there would be no ballet, opera, many museums etc.  Maybe take away subsidies for stadiums etc, yet we only bitch about harness racing and constantly call it welfare. 

Also lots of that money that flows through is taxed, and there is something called income tax that most states have.  So the amount spent as a dollar amount costs the states far less. that is  basic economics.  And yes harness racing would be out of business without slot money but so would most dance and theater groups be too.

Are people shoving needles and tubes into those dancers then having the public bet on them? I don't remember reading that the federal government indicted anyone on Broadway for selling non detectable drugs used on actors that caused their hearts to fail.
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