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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2023, 09:02:13 PM »
Somebody mis-progamed more than just a couple bucks into the wrong place! Either that or they thought that they were punching $1.00 tickets and they were $100. Either way Somebody is keeping way too much money in their gaming account!

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2023, 12:40:56 AM »
How can you even bet those amounts!
In the words of SCM,,I GOTTA EAT!

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2023, 01:56:02 AM »
The Left hand bets huge amounts through accounts that will never pay up and the Right hand collects the winning bets paid out by FanDuel, while FanDuel is busy trying to track down the Left hand (who has disappeared.)  Out and Out fraud; been done in various ways for years, but Draft Kings and Fan Duels are so horny to get big $$ that they have been slack on their due diligence.  They might also have one or more on the inside approving the betting limits for the Left handers.

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2023, 12:18:43 PM »
How can you even bet those amounts!

People buy expensive yearlings, some people like to bet and gamble.

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2023, 02:26:17 PM »
$2.9 million was bet at Monticello yesterday over only 7 races which could be an all time high handle EVER! https://racing.ustrotting.com/chart.aspx

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2023, 08:17:23 PM »
$2.9 million was bet at Monticello yesterday over only 7 races which could be an all time high handle EVER! https://racing.ustrotting.com/chart.aspx

Looks like a place to make some serious cash!!  Not like many other harness tracks where betting $ 10 into a pool won’t be stepping on your own money!!
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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2023, 08:28:46 PM »
$2.9 million was bet at Monticello yesterday over only 7 races which could be an all time high handle EVER! https://racing.ustrotting.com/chart.aspx

2.6 million was bet in the last two races.

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2023, 09:36:09 AM »
Looks like a place to make some serious cash!!  Not like many other harness tracks where betting $ 10 into a pool won’t be stepping on your own money!!

please pay attention

these abnormalities were made in the superfecta and pentafecta pools only--the other pools were normal

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2023, 09:37:06 AM »
How can you even bet those amounts!

its not difficult if you dont have to put the cash up

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2023, 09:38:27 AM »
2.6 million was bet in the last two races.

dont tell the Montipisshole sympathizers here--they will get upset

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2023, 09:38:37 AM »
What has the USTA said about this ?

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2023, 10:14:20 AM »
its not difficult if you dont have to put the cash up

What makes you think they didnt put the cash up?
I dont think books let you bet into track pools without funding your account.

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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2023, 10:30:11 AM »
What makes you think they didnt put the cash up?
I dont think books let you bet into track pools without funding your account.

Officials at FanDuel are focusing their investigation into Wednesday’s suspicious betting patterns on a glitch or a hack that resulted in one or more of its accountholders being able to place bets at a fraction of the actual cost of the wagers or at no cost at all, according to multiple officials who have knowledge of the probe.

According to the officials, the malfunction or hack allowed the bettor to build enormous bets on Wednesday without the costs of the bets being properly subtracted from the account balance. The activity of the bettor or bettors attracted industry-wide attention when the wagers reached millions of dollars by mid-afternoon, plainly visible on the tote feeds of the tracks targeted by the bettor.

After shutting the accounts down, FanDuel released a statement Wednesday night saying that it had “identified technical issues and potential fraud” in relation to the outsized bets. The company added that it was “undertaking a full review of this matter and will make public additional details at its conclusion.”

FanDuel is the owner of TVG and a separate platform called FanDuel Racing.

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FanDuel declined to comment when asked for confirmation of the targets of the probe, other than reiterating its Wednesday night statement.

If the problem arose from inadequate deductions from the account or accounts, it would go a long way toward explaining the behavior of the bettor or bettors, whose activity led to head-scratching throughout the pari-mutuel community.

The bets were concentrated in the superfecta and super high five pools. The wagers were constructed using the “all” button for every slot in the bet, according to officials, guaranteeing that the bets would generate payouts. But most curiously, the bets were made at enormous multiples of the base denomination, a strategy that drove down payouts. As a result, the bets appeared to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars due to the enormous costs and reduced payouts.

For example, the bettor made $554,400 in wagers into the super high five pool at Churchill Downs in the fourth race on Wednesday, using the “all” button in all five spots, at $220 for each of 2,520 combinations, insuring 220 winning tickets. On paper, that generated $85,434 in winning tickets, but a net loss of $468,966.

If the bettor was able to make bets at a fraction of the true cost, then the net calculation could have a vastly different result. If, for example, the system was not deducting any money from the player’s account, the net result for the Churchill race was an $85,434 profit. At 10 cents on the dollar, the net result would still be a profit of nearly $30,000.

The bet-processing system in the U.S. relies on betting information to be transmitted from the various nodes in its network into one common pool. Under a scenario in which the bets were not being accurately deducted from the account, the FanDuel system would still be sending the total amount bet and the combinations, regardless of the impact on the player’s account balance.

Wagering sites are typically held accountable for the information that is relayed by their systems into commingled pools, so FanDuel is likely on the hook for the bets. All of the tracks targeted by the bettor paid out the bets based on the information in the commingled pools.

It remains unclear how many pools the bettor targeted. Based on historical betting patterns, it appears likely that exacta and trifecta pools were also targeted by the bettor before the accounts were shut down mid-afternoon on Wednesday. However, one official said that the glitch or hack had been traced to new code introduced into the system on Tuesday night, limiting the impact to Wednesday’s races.


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Re: LOL, Betting irregularities
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2023, 11:00:51 AM »
Next it will be "someone allowed" this to happen, and after that the proverbial "open window" conspiracy theory. It's pretty simple. Someone put in code the night before. I don't know anything about code. Then, someone tried to make free bets and collect real winnings. That second referenced someone was a fool. They should go legit in life, because as a thief they are a fool.

 

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