Ian Moore better than Stanley Dancer and Billy Haughton

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I didn't think so. I just find it interesting to compare Moore with the two of them.

The only people who would compare them are using theatrics to knock/criticize Moore. It's background noise. Moore is an excellent horseman. He will probably be on the first year eligible HOF nomination, both in Canada and the US.

[Kenny]

The only people who would compare them are using theatrics to knock/criticize Moore. It's background noise. Moore is an excellent horseman. He will probably be on the first year eligible HOF nomination, both in Canada and the US.

Can you prove he is clean?

[Trigger]

Can you prove he is clean?

You prove people are guilty, not clean 

[Kenny]

You prove people are guilty, not clean 

Circumstantial evidence

[Trigger]

Circumstantial evidence

You're guilty of a lot and none of it is good 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Nope. Don't have to. You prove people are guilty-----not innocent. I've been in this business for the better part of forty years. Doesn't mean a thing. But, from being in this business, I know that it is widely accepted, amongst people in the business and his peers, that Moore is an excellent horseman. Ask them if he's also a vet, and they will say yes, but without the raised eyebrow, scrutiny, inference, etc. If him being a vet makes him a cheater, I have one question. Are you saying he has access to "stuff" no other vet does?

People will yell and scream about Moore-----and others-----being dirty, being a drug trainer, using something illegal, and so on. They knock. I even see the haters take a minor infraction, a misdemeanor, and they make it into a major felony and they make the person out to be 100% dirty. Full blown cheater. They have to, it suits their argument and feeds their hate, jealousy, whatever. Good for them. But as soon as someone else comes up positive, and it happens to be a person they like or support-----here comes the denial, deflection, rationalization, and so on. Very transparent to me. I am not arguing. Nothing more than MHO that he's an excellent horseman. And countless people actually in the industry agree. Doesn't mean that's right though. There's not always a right and wrong.

[Calhoun]

Circumstantial evidence

Quincy, MD

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Quincy, MD

 

Good show! Klugman was a a big racetrack fan!

[Kenny]

Nope. Don't have to. You prove people are guilty-----not innocent. I've been in this business for the better part of forty years. Doesn't mean a thing. But, from being in this business, I know that it is widely accepted, amongst people in the business and his peers, that Moore is an excellent horseman. Ask them if he's also a vet, and they will say yes, but without the raised eyebrow, scrutiny, inference, etc. If him being a vet makes him a cheater, I have one question. Are you saying he has access to "stuff" no other vet does?

People will yell and scream about Moore-----and others-----being dirty, being a drug trainer, using something illegal, and so on. They knock. I even see the haters take a minor infraction, a misdemeanor, and they make it into a major felony and they make the person out to be 100% dirty. Full blown cheater. They have to, it suits their argument and feeds their hate, jealousy, whatever. Good for them. But as soon as someone else comes up positive, and it happens to be a person they like or support-----here comes the denial, deflection, rationalization, and so on. Very transparent to me. I am not arguing. Nothing more than MHO that he's an excellent horseman. And countless people actually in the industry agree. Doesn't mean that's right though. There's not always a right and wrong.

Copout answer. He once had to scratch from the Jug from breaking the rules...

[Kenny]

Nope. Don't have to. You prove people are guilty-----not innocent. I've been in this business for the better part of forty years. Doesn't mean a thing. But, from being in this business, I know that it is widely accepted, amongst people in the business and his peers, that Moore is an excellent horseman. Ask them if he's also a vet, and they will say yes, but without the raised eyebrow, scrutiny, inference, etc. If him being a vet makes him a cheater, I have one question. Are you saying he has access to "stuff" no other vet does?

People will yell and scream about Moore-----and others-----being dirty, being a drug trainer, using something illegal, and so on. They knock. I even see the haters take a minor infraction, a misdemeanor, and they make it into a major felony and they make the person out to be 100% dirty. Full blown cheater. They have to, it suits their argument and feeds their hate, jealousy, whatever. Good for them. But as soon as someone else comes up positive, and it happens to be a person they like or support-----here comes the denial, deflection, rationalization, and so on. Very transparent to me. I am not arguing. Nothing more than MHO that he's an excellent horseman. And countless people actually in the industry agree. Doesn't mean that's right though. There's not always a right and wrong.

I guess you will tells Dan Noble is clean and should not have been banned from Scioto.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I guess you will tells Dan Noble is clean and should not have been banned from Scioto.

Nope, not at all. No absolutes. Do the search here and you'll see my comments and what I thought should be done with him. I think Noble should have been banned and fully investigated, which extremely rarely happens. What Noble did on that one particular day falls under conduct detrimental to the sport/industry IMO. So, now, is someone going to compare Moore and Noble? Moore's accomplishments and entire body of work are far different than Noble's several extreme and egregious performances. An apple and the planet earth. Both round.

[Kenny]

Nope, not at all. No absolutes. Do the search here and you'll see my comments and what I thought should be done with him. I think Noble should have been banned and fully investigated, which extremely rarely happens. What Noble did on that one particular day falls under conduct detrimental to the sport/industry IMO. So, now, is someone going to compare Moore and Noble? Moore's accomplishments and entire body of work are far different than Noble's several extreme and egregious performances. An apple and the planet earth. Both round.

As Dr. "He's a vet" Moore should be.

He has fewer horses than many other top trainers yet he hits the jackpot every year in a sport where hitting the jackpot is not common.