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captaintreacherous

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Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« on: August 28, 2026, 06:11:30 PM »
 I believe you’re thinking of the Dan and Christi Noble incident at Scioto Downs in Ohio.

It happened on Saturday, September 13, 2025, the closing night of the Scioto Downs meet. The Nobles sent out four horses, with Christi training and Dan Noble driving, and they went 4-for-4.

The times were remarkable:

Naturally Gifted A — 1:47.2
Sinbad N — 1:47.0
Celtic Spirit — 1:47.0
Helium N — 1:46.4

The 1:46.4 by Helium N was only one-fifth of a second off the fastest mile ever paced on a 5/8-mile track at that time. The two 1:47 miles were also among the fastest ever recorded on a 5/8-mile oval.

What made it particularly suspicious to people in racing was the contrast with the rest of the card. The other comparable winners were between 1:49 and 1:51.3, while the four Noble horses all went 1:47.2 or faster.

What happened afterward

This is the really interesting part. The Nobles had apparently been required to race out of publicly announced detention barns at various points during the Scioto meet, but not on that final night. Shortly afterward, they were essentially shut out of Dayton Raceway and Miami Valley, and Scioto officials indicated they would not be accepting their entries when racing resumed.

There was no public finding that the Nobles cheated or administered a prohibited substance in connection with that night. The controversy was more about the extraordinary performances and the subsequent exclusion of the Nobles without a detailed public explanation.

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2026, 06:38:54 PM »
I was always curious as when or who officially starts the timer in a race?

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2026, 07:09:17 PM »
The four Noble horses


Horse   Previous relevant mark   Sept. 13     


Naturally Gifted A   1:50.4   1:47.2   3.2 seconds
Sinbad N                   1:51.2   1:47.0   4.2 seconds
Celtic Spirit N           1:48.3   1:47.0   1.3 seconds
Helium N                   1.48:4      1:46:4.      Track Record

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2026, 10:34:36 PM »
Where's Sinbad now?  Who's the owner?  Probably something dirty there.   

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2026, 11:59:27 PM »
I wasn't there that night, watched all the replays though
My brother was there.. very knowledgeable horseman
Those horses had fucking rocket fuel up their ass ngc3
They could have gone faster
Noble had a stranglehold on a couple of them ngc3

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2026, 04:31:28 PM »

 Easy to improve lifetime beats by 3.2 secs when you're Naturally Gifted A!
Best time of year watch the young horses racing for great money. Nothing better than following the horses, going to wherever their next stake is, with family.

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2026, 04:57:23 PM »
A year ago. Get over it already Capt or put it on YOUR new site. They were and are being punished,
especially when there was no real evidence.

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2026, 05:00:19 PM »
glad the tracks denied their entries
at the very least they should have been in detention barns and out of competition testing
of course northfield accepted them

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2026, 06:17:30 PM »
A year ago. Get over it already Capt or put it on YOUR new site. They were and are being punished,
especially when there was no real evidence.

I agree. 

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2026, 06:49:47 PM »
What's even more amazing is no positives but yet the guy still gets thrown out

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2026, 07:42:30 PM »
What's even more amazing is no positives but yet the guy still gets thrown out
The thing I always wonder most about. To be clear I am not defending anyone.
Pena, Noble, and others had no positives...was it rubbing it in everyone's face? If that is the case what about Burke, Engbolm, Bongiorno, and numerous others? They rubbed it in and had positives and race anywhere they want.
The racing commissions do little to nothing. Then one day Pena or Dowse or Noble got to go. Why Them and not many others? What happens behind the scenes that the average fan can't/won't find out?

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Re: Read about the stunt Noble and the wife trainer pulled
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2026, 09:13:37 PM »
The Noble trainer Christy used the same Blood builder

that the Monmouth/Saratoga Betting group used...

Tests clean......


and yes the Tbred guys knew and made huge scores

in England and US...

Nobles horses juiced whether tested clean or not...

Stevie Wonder could see that....

tests mean 0

 

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