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Brown jug

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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2026, 11:59:33 AM »
when i see a gravy train i jump on board
things are good

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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2026, 08:38:38 PM »
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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2026, 10:09:51 PM »
correct
not enough good horses to fill all the regional sires stakes and the grand circuit races
so if you have a decent horse
$$$$$
yes its a long to medium term problem, need more horses bred
yes its absolutely a short term opportunity

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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2026, 09:45:25 AM »
Yonkers is the place of race if you're looking to make some real money

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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #34 on: Today at 06:42:31 PM »
More Evidence of contracting:
Bob Miecuna Trot and Aria Pace are on the Yonkers International card. In 2024 they ran for 250K. Last year and in 2026 the purse is 200K.

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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #35 on: Today at 06:46:40 PM »
At one time the purse for the Hambo was 1.5 million, now it's 1 million, and the Hambo Oaks was $750,000 back then, now it's $500,000.

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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #36 on: Today at 06:51:32 PM »
At one time the purse for the Hambo was 1.5 million, now it's 1 million, and the Hambo Oaks was $750,000 back then, now it's $500,000.
Yes and a 2 million dollar Woodrow Wilson.
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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #37 on: Today at 07:03:09 PM »
I use to go to Yonkers. A friend of mine had horses and did well. It didn't end up that way. As more and more cheaters came his winning and love of the game declined. This guy knew many in the game. A rich owner told him a story about his top trainer. The guy told him he never won more races in his 20 years. The kick to the story was he didn't make any money. That is because of horses breaking down, high Vet. bill, & high training bills. There are very few thriving in today's game.
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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #38 on: Today at 07:15:13 PM »
Anyone who thinks the sport and industry as a whole is thriving is either in denial or simply foolish. Big race here, big day there, and so on, is absolutely not reflective nor indicative of the sport and industry as a whole. That doesn't prevent me from betting, contributing to the sport and industry, and participating in it. The sport and the industry will continue to change, certain aspects will get worse before they get better, but the sport and industry will survive. If you don't think so, pick up your marbles, and go home, and if you don't want to go home, so someplace else. Anyplace else.

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Re: Evidence of contracting
« Reply #39 on: Today at 07:21:50 PM »
Anyone who thinks the sport and industry as a whole is thriving is either in denial or simply foolish. Big race here, big day there, and so on, is absolutely not reflective nor indicative of the sport and industry as a whole. That doesn't prevent me from betting, contributing to the sport and industry, and participating in it. The sport and the industry will continue to change, certain aspects will get worse before they get better, but the sport and industry will survive. If you don't think so, pick up your marbles, and go home, and if you don't want to go home, so someplace else. Anyplace else.

Add to the fact:

The average age of the owners in the game today. 

The average age of trainers in the game today.

Even the drivers—2nd and 3rd generation families.

No new blood at these levels!

 

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