D.Noble haters VS Burke supporters

[Swandre]

agree 100% 

Ervin Hanover seems ok

[Pacer 2]

Why would people hate Dan Noble?

[seen2much]

Ervin Hanover seems ok

I don't see that as a good example. Menary has had a long association with Burke. He currently trains Brue Hanover for Burke.

[Swandre]

yes but it’s a Pollack horse. I doubt Burke decided they’d get it to go 2 seconds faster for Dave than themselves

[Grandstand Handicapper]

It's 12 days into 2026. Way too small a sampling. Sure, might be a trend, but the #'s now are meaningless.

That said, like him or not, think he's cheating or not, Burke is an established, known trainer. If there is some current poor performance going on, let's see how that goes. Noble, while he has a history, talent, etc., his extreme results-----with his own horses-----specifically what happened on that particular night, was out of nowhere, is very egregious, and odd, to say the least. It has continued, to some extent. One guy going stone cold, and another being extremely hot, in this case, is two different scenarios as far as I am concerned.

[sledge hammer]

Peter Stratton numbers look askew

training average :

2026 : .604
2025 : .183
2024 : .133
2023 : .085
2022 : .163
2021 : .144
2020 : .162
2019 : .173
2018 : .141
2017 : .139

has hovered around 20 wins per year for the last 15 years, has 8 wins so far this year

I commented to a friend that it seems Peter Stratton has busted out at a dozen different tracks, and as for his current run, I think it's a combination of his cheap horses well classified because they had those mini series where you raced against the same horses every week and didn't have to move up, then he had Noble driving his stock and he's been on a run not seen since the Walter Case Yonkers era.

[White Rabbit]

It's 12 days into 2026. Way too small a sampling. Sure, might be a trend, but the #'s now are meaningless.

That said, like him or not, think he's cheating or not, Burke is an established, known trainer. If there is some current poor performance going on, let's see how that goes. Noble, while he has a history, talent, etc., his extreme results-----with his own horses-----specifically what happened on that particular night, was out of nowhere, is very egregious, and odd, to say the least. It has continued, to some extent. One guy going stone cold, and another being extremely hot, in this case, is two different scenarios as far as I am concerned.

Not to small of a sample size. Burke’s # 13 days into the year are down by 50% compared to same over the last 10 yrs starting the year off. Everyone keeps pointing fingers at Danny put he’s on pace to win more races as a driver then Burke as a trainer. Burke has won more races every year for the last 8 yrs or so then the dash winning driver. Which is un heard of. So  Danny somehow is cheating, but Burke’s in a slump.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Not to small of a sample size. Burke’s # 13 days into the year are down by 50% compared to same over the last 10 yrs starting the year off. Everyone keeps pointing fingers at Danny put he’s on pace to win more races as a driver then Burke as a trainer. Burke has won more races every year for the last 8 yrs or so then the dash winning driver. Which is un heard of. So  Danny somehow is cheating, but Burke’s in a slump.

I don't disagree at all that Noble is cheating. Stats between the two, 3% into the year, mean nothing to me. Actually, stats between the two are meaningless to me. Statisticians can always come up with some random, myopic stat, or something of the like. Personally, I don't think the stats tell me one is cheating. Maybe the other in a slump, but like I said, 11 days into the year? 3% of the year? OK, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I've long said, statistics don't lie.....but statisticians do, LOL.