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Cullipher and Bucci
« on: November 30, 2025, 02:35:00 PM »

      As of Monday all of Culliphers horses being trained by Enrico Robinson and all of Buccis horses being trained by Diana Maglio at Yonkers Raceway.
               What is up. These are obvious beards. What is up. What's the real story

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Re: Cullipher and Bucci
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2025, 03:27:52 PM »
      As of Monday all of Culliphers horses being trained by Enrico Robinson and all of Buccis horses being trained by Diana Maglio at Yonkers Raceway.
               What is up. These are obvious beards. What is up. What's the real story


bucci black box 60 days at yonkers diana is his old lady lol

cullifer no clue but assuming he’s got a hot test and getting ready for it to come out

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2025, 04:10:32 PM »
It's comical that they go through all the bullshit of putting up imposter trainers. I would respect the powers that be more if they just stopped with the suspensions and let them continue to program the actual trainer and not some asshole's wife who probably doesn't know the difference between a knee boot and a snaffle bit. All they are accomplishing by listing a beard/imposter is misrepresenting the public/bettors/gamblers. Harness Racing is a fucking joke and embarrassment.

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2025, 04:34:15 PM »
Robinson hasn’t started a horse since Feb, 2024, and all of a sudden gets a bunch to train?
I count 7 entries so far.  Is he an assistant trainer for Cullipher?

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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2025, 08:14:09 PM »
It's comical that they go through all the bullshit of putting up imposter trainers. I would respect the powers that be more if they just stopped with the suspensions and let them continue to program the actual trainer and not some asshole's wife who probably doesn't know the difference between a knee boot and a snaffle bit. All they are accomplishing by listing a beard/imposter is misrepresenting the public/bettors/gamblers. Harness Racing is a fucking joke and embarrassment.

In the prehistoric days, programs would assert the trainer-stable relationship--The program told you that Apples Thomas was the trainer for the Haughton Stable.
Its not quite the same and it may be apples and oranges, but the bettor desrves to know whose horses a new trainer is training for.
Its easy enough.....

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2025, 10:51:33 PM »
In the prehistoric days, programs would assert the trainer-stable relationship--The program told you that Apples Thomas was the trainer for the Haughton Stable.
Its not quite the same and it may be apples and oranges, but the bettor desrves to know whose horses a new trainer is training for.
Its easy enough.....
They did it that way back then so if a horse did come up positive, Apples would take the fall and not Billy. Now, they don't give a shit, as they put down as trainer their wife, daughter, pool cleaner etc as trainer if horses comes up hot. Like I said, a fucking joke.

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« Reply #6 on: Today at 12:45:33 PM »
Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.

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« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:06:07 PM »
Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.

Been said a million times...that is the only thing that would be a consequence worth being scared of.  That's why it will never happen.  All commissions are on the take and don't want to ruffle any feathers.  Scared they will be replace!

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« Reply #8 on: Today at 01:08:51 PM »
Every time cullipher gets days his boy enrico goes down as trainer so cullipher don’t miss a beat. Just like all the other crooks in harness racing. Nobody misses any time. Such a great business get days. Take em when you want and just put down someone else til your suspension is over.

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« Reply #9 on: Today at 01:11:01 PM »
Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.

If thectracks suspended the horses, they would lose revenue via handle if those starters cant be replaced. Clear conflict of interest.

Its a fatally flawed industry.

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« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:16:59 PM »
Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.

i think they do that in canada, ey?

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« Reply #11 on: Today at 02:02:58 PM »
First, this is BS. If you don't see the difference between back in the day with Ray and Larry Remmen and a positive test, and today's current cast of rule-benders and breakers, then you have a bigger problem than you think. Larry came up positive, the horses didn't go anywhere. Larry took a vacation, Ray went about his day as always, drove, and Don Queen went down as trainer instead of Larry. Personally, I see that as a legitimate scenario.

Second, I have long been a supporter of owner accountability, and there should be without question. However, you have a very slippery slope here. In the end, are you going to punish every owner and suspend all of his/her horses because one of them (and the trainer) came up positive? My answer is no. Should you suspend that one horse? OK, I can see that, but there has to be parameters. Quarantine (first) perhaps, additional testing, out-of-competition, additional blood, and so on-----all at the owner's expense. However, it still comes down to picking a trainer? Who is safe to pick and who is not? Alagna? Burke? Pelling? Takter? Toscano? Menary? McNair? Cullen? Svanstedt? Melander? Wallin? It's always a simple solution from one's keyboard.

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« Reply #12 on: Today at 08:31:32 PM »
This would all change if the owner got suspended as well

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« Reply #13 on: Today at 09:02:40 PM »
Things were different many years ago. It had a lot to do with trainers being stabled at the track. Comparing the Remmen brothers to the cheaters of today is apples to oranges. Legit trainers with knowledge vs. chemists who train horses.

 

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