ELISTA HANOVER

[Muggsy Mitty]

I see David Miller is replaced by Todd McCarthy , Huge Improvement, Dave is looking real old. Time to head to Ohio like he said he was going to do.

[hammer0419]

I'm  sure the mare is very happy. No more parked the whole mile trips.

[Stan durbread]

She better go try to get Dave back

[Horseradish]

at least she held on for the 5th place check

[Bernie Madoff]

 

[GonePostal]

I would say she got what she deserves!!!!

[Cashout]

     McCarthy gave all time clown drive

[PineHurstPacer]

I see David Miller is replaced by Todd McCarthy , Huge Improvement, Dave is looking real old. Time to head to Ohio like he said he was going to do.

Worst take in 2025?

[Stan durbread]

     McCarthy gave all time clown drive

Todd had no options the mare has gotten lamer and ranker the last 6 starts. Like Miller or not he can finesse a lame trotter with the best of them

[hammer0419]

Stan your a1000% correct. Horse has made I think over $500K this year. And then they send her out there very sore. What's wrong with these people.

And the state vet who is suppose to protect the horses,where  were they before the race.

The whole thing a cluster fuck.

[remington]

always called that a speed break caused by soreness driver nor recognizing it

[Stan durbread]

Stan your a1000% correct. Horse has made I think over $500K this year. And then they send her out there very sore. What's wrong with these people.

And the state vet who is suppose to protect the horses,where  were they before the race.

The whole thing a cluster fuck.

Sadly the state vets are for the most part vets that can’t see or diagnose lameness. Part of the issue is the pay no good vet is going to sit there for 5 hours for $200 a night. A good diagnostic vet can make that in 30 minutes. When one does recognize a lame horse most are scared of getting sued if they scratch out of a stake race.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Interesting that on the t-bred side, they did what-----scratch the favorite for the Derby? They just scratched one out of the BC and now there is a potential lawsuit, or at least a demand for a full investigation.

In this case here, all valid points. Driver aside, and pre-state vet, race day, I think Stoebe has done extremely well in a short period of time. Real success story. A good story for the sport and business. However, I can't help but feel-----and I hate to use the word as it's not an insult, criticism, etc.-----the "inexperience" might have reared it's head here. The horse has been a bit more off and not as sound, whether it be on and off, or gradually over the last few races. She's put in some big miles and efforts. Even with experience, it takes a certain set of skills, horsemanship, and more, to campaign a high-class horse, over the course of a season, and do it successfully so that your peaks when it counts. Even with experience, many just can't do it. Regardless, she's done a great job. They make breaks and those are the breaks, LOL.

[pocketrocketwinner]

Another example of putting a dead lame horse on the racetrack. The gamblers get screwed with a drawing dead favorite and everyone's health and safety was jeopardized.  Thank god Todd had her out in the clear or we all could have watched a disaster.

If you cant tell a horse a lame, the entire industry needs to be shut down.

[Stan durbread]

Another example of putting a dead lame horse on the racetrack. The gamblers get screwed with a drawing dead favorite and everyone's health and safety was jeopardized.  Thank god Todd had her out in the clear or we all could have watched a disaster.

If you cant tell a horse a lame, the entire industry needs to be shut down.

On the other hand, if you can’t tell a horse is lame in post parade you should be playing slots