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Rdp066

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Crooked Tellers
« on: November 08, 2025, 08:10:42 PM »
I just wanted to get everyone's opinion on crooked tellers at your local race track.  I visit Monmouth Park and there is a guy in the first floor of the clubhouse in the room with the bar who pockets everyone's change.  If you try to cash a voucher say for $7.50, he keeps the .50 cents and pretends it didn't exist.  These guys are in their 70s and have been there for 50 years doing this.

I was wondering if this is common at race tracks throughout the country.

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2025, 08:47:45 PM »
Yes,they have tried that at our racetrack also. If it’s over 30 cents, I tell them I’d like my change please ! It’s not your money to keep .

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2025, 08:56:37 PM »
I just wanted to get everyone's opinion on crooked tellers at your local race track racetrack.  I visit visited Monmouth Park and there is a guy in on the first floor of the clubhouse in the room with the bar who pockets everyone's change.  If you try to cash a voucher, say for $7.50, he keeps the .50 cents and pretends it didn't exist.  These guys are in their 70s and have been there for 50 years doing this.

I was wondering if this is common at race tracks racetracks throughout the country.

I have a habit upon a purchase, not taking back dollars and change.  That's a minimal tip, like keep the change. I like tipping.  Over-tipping too.  Light wallet with large bills.

But sure, it happens, if you stand there long enough they'll push a bunch of dimes your way.  ngc3

Good to cash tickets, good for you, even if it's change.  ngc3

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Re: Crooked Tellers
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2025, 09:32:22 AM »
I just stand there looking at the teller and don't touch the paper currency.

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2025, 08:02:38 PM »
I just stand there looking at the teller and don't touch the paper currency.

You are a smart man and should be applauded for it.  They installed a self checkout machine now in the grandstand.  I use that and it only gives you a voucher if it is less than five dollars.  I just take the petty voucher and bet it on superfectas until it gets down to less than sixty cents.  I put the voucher in my pocket and bring it with me to bet the next day.  This saves me the aggravation of dealing with angry 75 year old men.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2025, 09:32:06 PM »
You are a smart man and should be applauded for it.  They installed a self checkout machine now in the grandstand.  I use that and it only gives you a voucher if it is less than five dollars.  I just take the petty voucher and bet it on superfectas until it gets down to less than sixty cents  ngc3.  I put the voucher in my pocket  ngc3 and bring it with me to bet the next day.  This saves me the aggravation of dealing with angry 75 year old men.

Sounds like you don't change your pants or win ever.   ;D

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2025, 09:46:41 PM »
When I was a lot younger going to the "Big A", I'd guess a teller could make a $100 bucks a day on tips and "leftovers" at the window. On a Saturday, long before betting machines existed, there would be 20 tellers on every floor and four or five for the big bettors in the clubhouse. The ones who really scored were the "10% percenters" who roamed the track looking to cash tickets over $600. I knew a guy, JC who must have cashed a few hundred tickets over a years time. He went to a specific teller who always cashed those bets real fast.

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2025, 01:31:17 AM »
I worked the windows for a while, but I was young and had the computer skills so they tapped me as a tote man. Once a Teamster, now in the Brotherhood. I maintained the terminals in the tote system at Hawthorne during the 90s before moving on to the banking world. Honestly, I kind of fucking hated myself for being the guy doing that, because the people who worked the windows were my friends. In fact, my wife worked the windows for a while. Long story short, dropping the change as a tip is a pretty standard thing at most tracks that I have seen. I saw this in practice at Colonial Downs just this year as well. I don't think it's shitty at all, but a quick word with the person you are working with and an honest ask for the change will generally be respected. Hopefully, respect for the person in front of you will be returned.

Whoever said it is right, slipping some change to the person giving you a human interaction while you plunge headlong into lust for the almighty dollar is a noble act that costs you very little. If you actually know your way around the card you should be able to spare a few dimes on your winnings for a human interaction. If not, then you are just spending money to have a good time anyway, why not share the spirit with those around you? Or, you can go to your cold, faceless terminals who don't celebrate your victories or smile at you through your pathetic losses -- most of which they know are losses when you tell them what to type out. Hope you tap hard enough to generate some emotion in your bet.

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2025, 06:35:48 AM »
I worked the windows for a while, but I was young and had the computer skills so they tapped me as a tote man. Once a Teamster, now in the Brotherhood. I maintained the terminals in the tote system at Hawthorne during the 90s before moving on to the banking world. Honestly, I kind of fucking hated myself for being the guy doing that, because the people who worked the windows were my friends. In fact, my wife worked the windows for a while. Long story short, dropping the change as a tip is a pretty standard thing at most tracks that I have seen. I saw this in practice at Colonial Downs just this year as well. I don't think it's shitty at all, but a quick word with the person you are working with and an honest ask for the change will generally be respected. Hopefully, respect for the person in front of you will be returned.

Whoever said it is right, slipping some change to the person giving you a human interaction while you plunge headlong into lust for the almighty dollar is a noble act that costs you very little. If you actually know your way around the card you should be able to spare a few dimes on your winnings for a human interaction. If not, then you are just spending money to have a good time anyway, why not share the spirit with those around you? Or, you can go to your cold, faceless terminals who don't celebrate your victories or smile at you through your pathetic losses -- most of which they know are losses when you tell them what to type out. Hope you tap hard enough to generate some emotion in your bet.

It's a mindset.

Runs proportional from the grandstand gambler.

To the trainers in the dining room and box seat owners.

In a place where that has more than its share of angst and hostility and when being on the winning side is often few and far between.

To make someones day is rewarding.

Has always come back many fold too to me.  Always, always, always.

If I can't hand a young barista 20 for my 12 coffee and danish, or buy bakery and healthy stuff for our doctors office, hand out 100's to my favorite people at the grocery store during the holidays or when they have a baby, give my barber a 50 for a 25 haircut or the same when I go to my sushi buffet restaurant to the staff...that couple grand a year doesn't set me back from retiring, it raises me up to do better, and I do.

Someone told me recently, no one ever does that for us, my response, it's not from just me, but from my community, we appreciate you.

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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2025, 06:21:47 PM »
Sounds like you don't change your pants or win ever.   ;D

Hey Trigger:

Why don't you get a life already instead of trolling message boards 24/7.  You sound like a lonely, old pice of shit with plenty of time on your hands.  Your comments suck ass anyway and you won't be missed by anyone on this board when you finally croak.

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Re: Crooked Tellers
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2025, 06:39:31 PM »


 an honest ask for the change will generally be respected.

Huh

You're saying

1. I need to ask for my money
2. my ask must be 'honest'
3. My honest ask will 'generally' be respected

How about this... It's not their fucking money. I'm not going to ask for it. I don't need to treat your friend as a 'special person.

I stare at the paper. Then I stare at your friend the teller.

I keep doing this Paper ... Your Friend ... Until Your Friend does one of two things ...

1) he counts out the change and puts it down... Then I take the quarters and tell him "keep the rest pal."  Or,

2) Your friend does not fully pay me and says something, anything to me and I respond, "It's not your fucking money."

By the way, as often as not, Your Friends chase me for Tips on any cashed wager, not just coins. I Cash a ticket for, say, $240. Your Friend will, as often as not, pay me my last $40 with one $20 bill, one $10, one $5 and five $1's.  And the singles leave their fingers so slowly and painfully I just laugh.

"an honest ask for the change will generally be respected. "


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Re: Crooked Tellers
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2025, 07:49:21 PM »
I know alot of tellers will hesitate with the change waiting to see if the customer leaves.  If they dont they'll reluctantly and slowly count the change and slam it on the counter.

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2025, 08:27:13 PM »
Hey Trigger:

Why don't you get a life already instead of trolling message boards 24/7.  You sound like a lonely, old pice of shit with plenty of time on your hands.  Your comments suck ass anyway and you won't be missed by anyone on this board when you finally croak.
Getting bitch slapped for demeaning plop-posters for their spelling, punctuation and grammar has stopped  ngc3  why is that  ngc3 because you're actually the English level aptitude of a gerbel.  ngc3

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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2025, 09:49:23 PM »
(a load of nonsense that doesn't bear repeating)
If you want a machine, bet at a machine. If you work with a person, treat them like a person. These are not strange customs from a far away land. These are commonplace behaviors that have been part of the industry for many decades; everyone understands them. Only amateurs and desperately poor handicappers are concerned with fractional wins.

 

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