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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2025, 10:14:10 AM »
Celebrating your nephew is fine. But maybe in private?
Running onto the track after no-trying to win and celebrating the winning driver like you just won the AL central? It goes far far overlooked and even dismissed but there is gambling taking place. Just an observation from afar....
Agreed, but not sure about a no try. what more could that horse of done. He was locked in the pocket the whole race..pun intended because of your username  ;D

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2025, 10:22:24 AM »
Agreed, but not sure about a no try. what more could that horse of done. He was locked in the pocket the whole race..pun intended because of your username  ;D

I would not say he was locked in the whole race.
To answer your question, exactly what Burke did in the the jugette from the pocket. No matter what, pull when you have to and give a legitimate effort to win the race. I wouldn't say conceding like he did was necessarily bad. It was the antics on the track after using that strategy that looks ridiculous

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2025, 10:33:52 AM »
I would not say he was locked in the whole race.
To answer your question, exactly what Burke did in the the jugette from the pocket. No matter what, pull when you have to and give a legitimate effort to win the race. I wouldn't say conceding like he did was necessarily bad. It was the antics on the track after using that strategy that looks ridiculous
Agree about the antics.. definitely a bad look. Pulling the pocket would have had to happen at the half like the Jugette, like you mentioned. Usually not a winning strategy, especially with a back half of 53.4

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2025, 11:26:26 AM »
it is very difficult to stare at fractions and judge/make assessments in a 2nd heat

of course the fractions will be slower-how much slower is speculation/matter of opinion

so to say Louprint had a soft half in The Final is a grey area for the rare folks like me who don't stare at the clock and obsess over it
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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2025, 11:46:52 AM »
How Sir do you prevent it ?
I don't know but I am sure you are old enough to remember the driving style of guys like Dancer, O'brien and Haughton. They never gave holes and parked each other out regardless of purse. I would love to see some billionaire racehorse lover build a 1 mile straight away track where post position and courtesy tucks didn't come in to play. I bet it would be an amazing product and then all that friendly shit we see would be put to rest.

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2025, 12:54:19 PM »
I don't know but I am sure you are old enough to remember the driving style of guys like Dancer, O'brien and Haughton. They never gave holes and parked each other out regardless of purse. I would love to see some billionaire racehorse lover build a 1 mile straight away track where post position and courtesy tucks didn't come in to play. I bet it would be an amazing product and then all that friendly shit we see would be put to rest.
A few years back I read that New Zealand or Aus. was going to do just that. One side of the track for Tbreds the other side for Sbreds. Small grandstand and rely mostly on internet.
I am just an old horse trainer still going around in circles. Sometimes Fast. Sometimes Half-Fast.

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2025, 04:01:39 PM »
A few years back I read that New Zealand or Aus. was going to do just that. One side of the track for Tbreds the other side for Sbreds. Small grandstand and rely mostly on internet.
That would be a game changer. Have cameras following the field from the sides and above. No need for grandstand at all. Make it a TV/internet event.

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2025, 04:36:36 PM »
Nice tradition and it is a good time to be there to enjoy small track racing which I liked a lot back in the day at Northville and Jackson and Maywood and some fairs. But,

Post position order all the way to the half?

$1 Ex paid $2?

Garbage race.

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2025, 08:24:22 PM »
Agree about the antics.. definitely a bad look. Pulling the pocket would have had to happen at the half like the Jugette, like you mentioned. Usually not a winning strategy, especially with a back half of 53.4


the horse had a 0.0% chance of beating Louprint. no sense in cooking him for the rest of the year

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2025, 09:21:54 PM »

the horse had a 0.0% chance of beating Louprint. no sense in cooking him for the rest of the year
Thanks for making my point..SNOOZEFEST

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2025, 03:47:16 PM »
Thanks for making my point..SNOOZEFEST

they can’t all be classics

it was a great week of racing and the Jug did get the best 3 year old in the sport, which it doesn’t always.

the final was over the moment Prince Hal retreated in the first elim, shit happens.

if they wanted to spice up the final but keep the eliminations competitive they could have the elimination winners draw 1-5 in the final instead of automatically getting 1-2

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2025, 04:01:59 PM »
they can’t all be classics

it was a great week of racing and the Jug did get the best 3 year old in the sport, which it doesn’t always.

the final was over the moment Prince Hal retreated in the first elim, shit happens.

if they wanted to spice up the final but keep the eliminations competitive they could have the elimination winners draw 1-5 in the final instead of automatically getting 1-2

The final was over when the "other burke" drew inside them both

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2025, 05:00:50 PM »
15 out of 20 favorites won Jug day!

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Re: Little Brown Snoozefest
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2025, 04:37:10 PM »
For those of us who remember Ron Wrenn passing out syringes at nfld to the trainers he was driving for dont really consider him very talented.

no one needs talent driving fir Burks

 

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