Excellent horseman! Absolutely underrated. Very nice guy. Well liked and well respected by his peers. At least those who count. He scaled down big time and was pretty quiet for years, and he completely got out of the business around 2018 or so. He sold a few remaining horses at Harrisburg. I saw him there and he said he was going to "retire" and concentrate on his music (for those of you who don't know, he is a hell of a musician!). Anyway, during the pandemic he kind of got back in a little as he took on (I think) two horses (one from his brother-in-law or something like that)-----that horse being the trotter Zero Dark Thirty. I saw him in Harrisburg that year. He looked good, happy, and I am very glad for him.