SPA Wednesday, Day X, 7/23/25

[Trigger]

Race 7 (440 pm) -

1A - Rabbit if that today, not even counting on this one for anything but a 4th.

2 - Big speed figure last, KC jumps to the 8, maybe a 4th too.

3 - Contender for 2nd and 3rd although will be fav or co fav.

4 - Contender for 2nd and 3rd although will be fav or co fav.

5 - The Lailman's who claimed this one, have a very good owner / trainer win % but have tailed way off being in the winner circle, 4th is a strectch.

6 - Horse wins and doesn't hit the track for 50 days, a problem, now adding 1/2 furlong, don't see it, 4th a strecth.

7 - The projected winner, raced 13 days ago and has a history of racing back in 2 weeks or so, very tight, and speed figure going up by double digits.  Got to taste the SPA.  122 2/5 at AQU at this distance with only 1lb more 5 weeks ago.

8 - Rice picked this horse up from Baffert, has done nothing for her or him, turf to dirt switch 24% win and 52% itm for Rice. Dangerous bitch with the needle and raced with better, going to say 2nd or 3rd or 4th here.

$30 into $160.

This race, and the 11th at Hoosiers I put almost $200 on.

We're starting to warm up fellas!   

[JT]

$30 into $160.

This race, and the 11th at Hoosiers I put almost $200 on.

We're starting to warm up fellas!   

Nice hit trigger.. he just held on to beat my 4 and knock me out of the late pick 5

[Trigger]

Nice hit trigger.. he just held on to beat my 4 and knock me out of the late pick 5

Thanks JT!

I put these bets together and in way early today.

We see each others bets but we often times see different stuff when we're handicapping and decisions are often final.

We don't seem to worry what others say and think, or odds, feel it - bet it!

I hope if you back up those wagers they come in!

[dougie]

R8 #7 Midtown Lights. My usual bet!

[Trigger]

Some serious cheating that 8th.

Dutrow, Irad and Prat.....zero effort.

2    The Big Calhouna    $134,997    $39,030    $75,716
2B    Everyoneloveslind a    $134,997    $39,030    $75,716

[Birdfantammy]

Some serious cheating that 8th.

Dutrow, Irad and Prat.....zero effort.

2    The Big Calhouna    $134,997    $39,030    $75,716
2B    Everyoneloveslind a    $134,997    $39,030    $75,716

That was totally disgusting!  Clearly a jockey fixed race!  Big show pool and poof.....the usual crap in NY!

I still don't understand show betting. Seems crazy to risk thousands for pennies. 

[Trigger]

That was totally disgusting!  Clearly a jockey fixed race!  Big show pool and poof.....the usual crap in NY!

I still don't understand show betting. Seems crazy to risk thousands for pennies.

 

Bridge jumping is for the wealthy. Pick up 5 to 10% return.  If they are in for $50,000 to show x 30 races x 2.10 payout (5%) = 75,000 profit - $50,000 wrong on the 31st time they still made a $25,000 profit. 

Some tracks in some states are required to pay out $2.20 as the lowest return, even better for them.

For sure, the 3 of them (Irad, Dutrow and Prat), just look at the stretch effort.  They might of got a dose of something too.  Millions of dollars, not just wps, out of the sups too, taking them out of all exotics.  The stretch drive  , even the fight for 4th there was none.

[Birdfantammy]

Bridge jumping is for the wealthy. Pick up 5 to 10% return.  If they are in for $50,000 to show x 30 races x 2.10 payout (5%) = 75,000 profit - $50,000 wrong on the 31st time they still made a $25,000 profit. 

Some tracks in some states are required to pay out $2.20 as the lowest return, even better for them.

For sure, the 3 of them (Irad, Dutrow and Prat), just look at the stretch effort.  They might of got a dose of something too.  Millions of dollars, not just wps, out of the sups too, taking them out of all exotics.  The stretch drive  , even the fight for 4th there was none.

Yep, literally nothing in the stretch.  They all watched the 1 run off and sat back there and stopped riding horses.  No effort...NONE!  I couldn't believe what I saw in that race.  Jockeys and trainers went together on a bet in that race.  No doubt in my mind. 

[Trigger]

Yep, literally nothing in the stretch.  They all watched the 1 run off and sat back there and stopped riding horses.  No effort...NONE!  I couldn't believe what I saw in that race.  Jockeys and trainers went together on a bet in that race.  No doubt in my mind.

I had zero bet, just rooting for JT, Dougie and those that posted selections on the race so I'm an objective party, you too. 

A jockey and trainer wins a $1 mil purse.  About $30k each, plus training fees.  A lot of work, doesn't happen often sometimes never for some

These guys whack up $1mil on a race taking in $3-4mil, just another heavy fav this one a coupled entry, they take themself out and it leaves 7 horses from the 9, take out 1 more jockey / trainer partner say another heavily bet horse and you can just box the other 6 in race 8.

6x5 exacta (all x all) = for every $30 spent, paid $120.75 for $1 base exacta bet

6x5x4 tri (all x all x all) = for every $60 spent, paid $193.25 on $.50 base tri bet

6x5x4x3 sup (all x all x all x all) = For every $36 spent, paid $330.75 on $.10 base sup bet

The wps pools now mean nothing because you don't have to figure out who to bet and you swept through the exotics.

[Papillon]

betting on coupled entries is illogical--your price is getting slashed as opposed to them race as separate entries


"Oh look, there is two of them"    attracts plenty of bettors--even some higher level players

both horses came up empty-it happens

Irad and Flavien are not holding back anything

[JT]

I try to avoid coupled entries at all costs