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Burke has 5 in final
« on: July 19, 2025, 09:01:04 PM »
Make me believe this is a good thing for the industry.     
Only person it's good for is Ronnie himself.
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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2025, 09:07:14 PM »
Make me believe this is a good thing for the industry.     
Only person it's good for is Ronnie himself.
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I'll stick with Prince Hal Hanover and hope he draws well on Wednesday.

They should just cancel the race and chop the purse like they do in poker tournaments when they pussy out and want it over.

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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2025, 10:10:39 PM »
burke has taken over ohio
looks like he is focused on Ontario now
oh yeah and there is indiana, pa, kentucky etc
be afraid, be very afraid, the assembly line does not stop

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2025, 10:15:35 PM »
burke has taken over ohio
looks like he is focused on Ontario now
oh yeah and there is indiana, pa, kentucky etc
be afraid, be very afraid, the assembly line does not stop

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Let's put this in perspective, breeding aside, please tell me who has made more than Burke as a Trainer (and owner) when taking into all money he has made in total in harness racing against any one individual in ALL of Thoroughbred and Standardbred racing history?

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2025, 10:38:34 PM »
Make me believe this is a good thing for the industry.     
Only person it's good for is Ronnie himself.
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Good thing there is a list of his preferred drivers.  He’s going  to need to consult it with that many in one race!   ngc3

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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2025, 11:24:58 PM »
It’s a mockery

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2025, 12:09:00 AM »
Good thing there is a list of his preferred drivers.  He’s going  to need to consult it with that many in one race!   ngc3
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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2025, 12:21:35 AM »
ngc3

Let's put this in perspective, breeding aside, please tell me who has made more than Burke as a Trainer (and owner) when taking into all money he has made in total in harness racing against any one individual in ALL of Thoroughbred and Standardbred racing history?
   

      Interesting thought

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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2025, 02:50:55 AM »
ngc3

Let's put this in perspective, breeding aside, please tell me who has made more than Burke as a Trainer (and owner) when taking into all money he has made in total in harness racing against any one individual in ALL of Thoroughbred and Standardbred racing history?

I would have to guess Todd Pletcher has him beat, especially since thoroughbred trainers get 10% instead of the 5% in harness. I am sure his daily training rate is somewhere in the $150/day range also.

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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2025, 03:38:42 AM »
Nothing but jealousy and haters. Burke has earned the success he is experiencing.

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2025, 06:36:09 AM »
     You have to truly applaud Burke for what he has accomplished. To be able to manage so many stables that he has across the country is truly amazing. BUT, he is hurting the sport. The small outfits can't compete with the numbers he has. He goes to states and dominates.  More and more of the Locals are disapearing. To have 5 horses in the Adios final hits the nail right on the head. No other trainer can do this. In the sport's heyday. You never saw this happen. 
     He also has a huge advantage with so many horses  to fit them in a perfect class weekly at different tracks. It's an amazing operation, but when is enough, enough. He is obviously financially set for life.  I have no idea how many horses he has, but it has to be in the hundreds.   

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2025, 06:50:59 AM »
Had 228 entries/results on usta.  That doesn’t count the few racing in Canada lately.  I’d say minimum on 150-175 in action just within the last 2 weeks.  Whether he is legit or not is another discussion.  But that is a huge operation, has to have tons of good help!

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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2025, 07:26:25 AM »
Soon Burke will have all the horses in a race. Then race one and scratch the rest, that results In a walk over and they split the purse up without leaving the barn. 

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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2025, 07:50:31 AM »
I have said for many years his monopoly in harness racing wouldn't be allowed in any other industry. He has destroyed the incentive of the small ownerships of the sport. If he can't breed them or buy them at the sale he will buy out the fastest 2 yr. old horse small time owner like this year. He is not satisfied unless he has the biggest piece of the pie in the Ohio Sire Stakes each year. There is no jealousy involved. Just my observation after many years of small time ownership. When you allow the Costcos and Walmarts to compete unfairly with the little guy you know who will get drove out of business every time.
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Re: Burke has 5 in final
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2025, 08:07:31 AM »
I would have to guess Todd Pletcher has him beat, especially since thoroughbred trainers get 10% instead of the 5% in harness. I am sure his daily training rate is somewhere in the $150/day range also.

If you look at the trainer statistics they use total purses. I believe Burke is the top considering both sports.

 

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