Haven't listened to this episode yet, but I will. Ian has been around for a long time. While he was the the go to guy in the harness game, at some point he started doing some work on the t-breds, and he became the go to guy there as well. I think they used to fly him out to work on Baffert's horses. I think he also was doing work for other big names, HOF trainers, etc. He may be working exclusively on t-breds now. I don't know. Smart guy. Really excelled at his craft.