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pocketrocketwinner

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2025, 10:20:34 AM »
is Elite allowed to bet in the WPS pools after the bell again?

I cannot find any documentation

We have to read between the lines from what they released. I would say YES it's back to business as usual for the CAWs. Gural doesn't care that they are killing his product in the long term. He lost money a few weeks in a row and that was the end of that

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2025, 10:21:02 AM »
It doesn't say, but I'm assuming that's the main reason they're reinstating the drag. I don't think they want the betting public to know bets are being made after the bell.

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2025, 10:27:47 AM »
we will find out Friday night--the wild odds fluctuations after the bell will tell the tale on Elite

as far as Gural--he knows his fans are mostly dopes--the ones who think all bets are made before the race starts-so I agree he wont announce that pick-pocketing is back in action

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2025, 10:31:55 AM »
By the time the CAWs completely cannibalize the product and drive the meadowlands into extinction (100% chance of happening) gural will already be gone. In the interim, all he cares about is his week to week bottom line numbers

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2025, 02:12:51 PM »
By the time the CAWs completely cannibalize the product and drive the meadowlands into extinction (100% chance of happening) gural will already be gone. In the interim, all he cares about is his week to week bottom line numbers
What a ridiculous statement to make. Did you ever own any business yourself? The bottom line is what determines profitability and viability so what are you talking about? Gural is correct to revert back to a more profitable approach and the complaints here are from people who probably don't even bet the Meadowlands nor bet a lot and complain when they lose $50.00 a night betting. 

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2025, 02:15:47 PM »
What a ridiculous statement to make. Did you ever own any business yourself? The bottom line is what determines profitability and viability so what are you talking about? Gural is correct to revert back to a more profitable approach and the complaints here are from people who probably don't even bet the Meadowlands nor bet a lot and complain when they lose $50.00 a night betting.

Actually. Even at 3.mil they he loses money. There isn't a more profitable anything at M1 and hasn't been since Clinton was in office.
Now the question is, just how far do I want to go with this???

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2025, 02:55:47 PM »
What a ridiculous statement to make. Did you ever own any business yourself? The bottom line is what determines profitability and viability so what are you talking about? Gural is correct to revert back to a more profitable approach and the complaints here are from people who probably don't even bet the Meadowlands nor bet a lot and complain when they lose $50.00 a night betting.

More profitable approach? Are you serious? Nothing is profitable about the meadowlands raving product. Talk about a ridiculous comment.

I believe 1000% you work there. Everyone there always goes to the "you don't bet much anyway" approach. Its usually $2 a race but you double that up.

The approach to let caws canibalize the product mOre and more each year is incredibly short sited. Most successful business owners have an eye for the long term viabikity of their business, btw. They don't fly by the seat of their pants week to week trying to maximize that week's revenue

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2025, 03:02:52 PM »
More profitable approach? Are you serious? Nothing is profitable about the meadowlands raving product. Talk about a ridiculous comment.

I believe 1000% you work there. Everyone there always goes to the "you don't bet much anyway" approach. Its usually $2 a race but you double that up.

The approach to let caws canibalize the product mOre and more each year is incredibly short sited. Most successful business owners have an eye for the long term viabikity of their business, btw. They don't fly by the seat of their pants week to week trying to maximize that week's revenue
Wrong! I am retired and never worked at a track but have owned 20 harness horses. Taking in $1.3 MILLION less in handle is less profitable than taking it, isn't it? He has many tax loopholes to defray the losses he sustains as well.

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2025, 03:06:06 PM »
Wrong! I am retired and never worked at a track but have owned 20 harness horses. Taking in $1.3 MILLION less in handle is less profitable than taking it, isn't it? He has many tax loopholes to defray the losses he sustains as well.

3.1 is not profitable.
1.8 is not profitable.

What he is doing is losing less money buy going back catering to caws, screwing retail players and screwing himself long term.
There's a very big difference between losing less and gaining more profit

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2025, 03:09:25 PM »
By the time the CAWs completely cannibalize the product and drive the meadowlands into extinction (100% chance of happening) gural will already be gone. In the interim, all he cares about is his week to week bottom line numbers

I completely agree about the CAWs cannibalizing themselves--we are already seeing evidence of that

as far as how long Gural lasts or how long he hangs in there(waiting for a casino) is anyone's guess

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2025, 03:10:23 PM »
3.1 is not profitable.
1.8 is not profitable.

What he is doing is losing less money buy going back catering to caws, screwing retail players and screwing himself long term.
There's a very big difference between losing less and gaining more profit

He loses money at both handles. Every year he loses more than ten million that he lays out of pocket. Gaining???? WHAT GAINING????
Now the question is, just how far do I want to go with this???

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2025, 11:33:08 AM »
With things back to the prior way, the handle increased by $900,000 from the previous Friday.

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2025, 12:04:08 PM »
With things back to the prior way, the handle increased by $900,000 from the previous Friday.

Thank goodness the CAWs are no longer inconvenienced

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2025, 12:20:59 PM »
You said it pocket.

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Re: Meadowlands to reinstate post time drag
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2025, 12:29:41 PM »
Thank goodness the CAWs are no longer inconvenienced

I am sure the $900k increase was mostly CAW and not so much the drag

did the dramatic odds changes after the bell occur?

I was watching the basketball game and Charlestown

 

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