The times are fake at Scioto

[Call Sign Merlin]

Harrahs Philly and Dover.

Think Philly, Dover, Pocono and Scioto are the fastest currently.  Raceway and Hazel always felt 2-3 seconds slower than Scioto.  Meadows can be hit or miss but they don’t ever seem to go the fractions of the first 4

[Bitter Truth]

Forgot Rosecroft and they have to be in discussion for fastest.

[rainman2]

Scioto, Raceway Park, Hazel, Windsor, Rideau Carlton, Greenwood

Did raceway park ever have fast horses race there?

When the hazel park horses got to pompano, they got at least 1 second faster
FYI, they shipped in in October/November.

[Call Sign Merlin]

Did raceway park ever have fast horses race there?

When the hazel park horses got to pompano, they got at least 1 second faster
FYI, they shipped in in October/November.

Lots of good Ohio Sire Stakes horses graced the Toledo oval including the immortal Buck I St Pat.

[SIX SHOOTER]

149/4  A 7500 CLAIMER THE SPORT IS A FUCKING JOKE.

[Harness racer]

Lots of good Ohio Sire Stakes horses graced the Toledo oval including the immortal Buck I St Pat.

Loved watching her race! 

[Bitter Truth]

Just to test my memory, was it Dan Burks that raced that horse?

[Harness racer]

I think it was Ron Burke and I think Timmy drove her most of the time.

[Bitter Truth]

Thx. That was 2011 .Yes Tetrick. The horse I was thinking about was like 30 yrs ago. The name sounded like that.
Pacer. I guess my memory isn't good enough.

[JT]

Thx. That was 2011 .Yes Tetrick. The horse I was thinking about was like 30 yrs ago. The name sounded like that.
Pacer. I guess my memory isn't good enough.

My guess is you are thinking of KF St. Patrick driven by Russell Swartz.

[Bitter Truth]

Thx. I was even thinking of KF Pro Sam.. Can't get away from Dan Burns being involved.
Kind of a one hit wonder for him, if indeed his name is right. Thx for trying.

[Scooteroo]

KF Pro Sam finished 5th in the final of the Little Brown Jug in 2000.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I think you can't simply compare the times, at least not in absolute terms. Too many other variables. Weather being one. Even in a constant, summer, look at Pompano. They didn't get that track really souped up very often. People weren't looking for TR's, except in the BC, maybe the Matron. Greenwood closed in 1993. Pre-a lot! LOL. Scioto today is much, much faster than it's ever been. Ask someone who has raced over all of them, or at least the ones that are currently racing.

[rainman2]

I think you can't simply compare the times, at least not in absolute terms. Too many other variables. Weather being one. Even in a constant, summer, look at Pompano. They didn't get that track really souped up very often. People weren't looking for TR's, except in the BC, maybe the Matron. Greenwood closed in 1993. Pre-a lot! LOL. Scioto today is much, much faster than it's ever been. Ask someone who has raced over all of them, or at least the ones that are currently racing.

More often than not, there were always fast miles at pompano because of the warm weather. Could have had faster miles if Bruce and Wally weren’t going 28/58 or 27/57 to the quarter and half every race!

[JT]

I know they redid the track at Scioto a couple years ago, but the times there this year do seem a little to fast. It's definitely  one of the fastest 5/8 in the country at the proper distance, with the fastest being Pocono. On US trotting looking at the fastest 5/8 track records, the majority are at Pocono, although that track seemed faster when they raced at night. Now I think it's just one night a week there.