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Here's that email that doesn't exist, or I made up, or I edited.....whatev er.  ngc3
Steve Jones telling the breeders of NYS they are creating slaughter horses. Nice. In control of 15 million in state funds.  tmbz1
https://youtu.be/MfzFyntMw4c
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2025, 02:05:34 PM »
Thanks Mike, I guess Steve Jones has no idea what was going on, he appears clueless here

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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2025, 03:02:46 PM »
Thanks Mike, I guess Steve Jones has no idea what was going on, he appears clueless here

This time I'll side with the breeders and anyone who is leveraged and invested in NYS big and small. THIS is what the clown in charge of the money is saying to them??? CLUELESS and let the change in the rules slide by unnoticed??? Then is literally YELLING at them??? I sure fucking hope the state is seeing this. If Scunziano and Ball  don't step up, I know others who will.
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2025, 03:47:35 PM »
I knew the email was real and an interesting read indeed.
Actually putting the slaughter statement in writing is great, but not for him  ngc3

Great work Mike and I can only speak for myself, but I am grateful the horses have a voice via you. I look forward to hearing what NYS has to say about this.

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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2025, 07:19:52 PM »
Why not copy and paste the email here?  You spend all day here. Are you still trying to get enough views on YouTube to get paid?

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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2025, 09:01:38 PM »
Why not copy and paste the email here?  You spend all day here. Are you still trying to get enough views on YouTube to get paid?

Aww are you that stupid? Can't figure out how to press pause to read the email? Well stupid, I did already screenshot, it's not copy and paste and was accused of faking the email. First you have to screenshot then upload to an image host to get a link to post any pic here....STUPID. And are you mad that yes my YouTube channel generates pennies for the views? Last I checked NYS DONATES over 200 million dollars to harness racing each year to support its losers who live off it. That's 84% of the purse structure. I repeat, you are fucking STUPID.  ngc3
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2025, 08:09:20 AM »
I could press the pause button but unfortunately I would have to listen to an imbecile that has a hard on for successful people. I see nothing wrong with the portion of the email that was posted. He is right. If I had a mare booked to a NY sire and was planning on using shipped semen I would cancel it. If my mare was already in goal I would be filing a lawsuit against NYSS for changing the rules 3/4 of the way through breeding season

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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2025, 08:11:06 AM »
I could press the pause button but unfortunately I would have to listen to an imbecile that has a hard on for successful people. I see nothing wrong with the portion of the email that was posted. He is right. If I had a mare booked to a NY sire and was planning on using shipped semen I would cancel it. If my mare was already in goal I would be filing a lawsuit against NYSS for changing the rules 3/4 of the way through breeding season

He wrote the bill. It's his job to follow it through. Funny what was approved only benefits the bigger farms and breeders, like himself. And there is no audio. And did you say sue NYSS over the welfare money it hands to these people???  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 You're a fucking jackoff.
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2025, 09:16:47 AM »
How does it only benefit the large breeders?  I don’t think it was a good decision but it will benefit any breeder in NY. Realistically it would be more beneficial to small breeders in NY that are not selling grand circuit pedigrees

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2025, 09:57:03 AM »
How does it only benefit the large breeders?  I don’t think it was a good decision but it will benefit any breeder in NY. Realistically it would be more beneficial to small breeders in NY that are not selling grand circuit pedigrees

When a trustee of NYSS and NYSHBDF tells the smaller breeders to sell their mares and then suddenly he tells them they will be getting less breedings to NYS stallions in 2026, that's corruption. Not many BC or CH babies sell for less than their stallion fees at the sales. He got caught, and he never expected anyone to send his BS rants to me. Now the media is involved, same media who wrote the NY Times article on NYS racing welfare. You can talk out your ass all you want on Horseplop. The real world is handling this one, and I am having a blast watching. He pitched the new rules, and only HE is responsible for this. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2025, 11:37:51 AM »
Let's add some clarity and facts to this:

Steve Jones is a third generation and world renowned breeder and farm owner.
Steve was, at one time, or currently is:
Trustee of the (Agriculture) New York State Horse Breeding Fund (and he was directly and was personally involved with securing a record purse structure for the New York Sire Stakes program for 2025).
Breeder of King Of The North, Check Me Out, Deweycheatumnhowe, Well Said, and Goalie Jeff.
President of Goshen Historic Track.
Trustee of the Harness Racing Museum & Hall of Fame.
A Director of the Hambletonian Society and Vice President of the Grand Circuit.
A recipient of the Monticello-Goshen USHWA John Manzi Leadership Award.

That said, Steve sent an email to his constituents. Now you have a person, not their constituent, who has zero standing and stature in the industry, who has a well-known, public, and long-standing hard-on for Steve; this person takes the email-----creates and adds his own interpretation, take various statements and comments out of context, and manipulates the intent of the email, simply to: one, further his own agenda and his own personal vendetta against Steve; and two, simply to besmirch and damage Steve.

In the end, nothing will happen (to Steve) as a result of this email. Exactly the opposite actually. Nobody but this person will have a problem with the email. Sure, you will hear all kinds of innuendos, the media this, the breeders that, and so on. All of it is BS. Steve has always been an advocate for breeders in NY. Breeders support him. The statements Steve made in the email are reflective of the breeding industry and some of what the current landscape is. But make no mistake, Steve's motivation is for the benefit of breeders, to improve the industry. Steve is not sabotaging breeders, or the breeding industry. In reality, this person is. Read the entire email. Talk to breeders. Draw your own conclusions-----because this person is obviously not objective and unbiased.

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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2025, 11:39:04 AM »
Really? You should talk to the people who breed horses in NYS that sent me the email then.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2025, 11:43:56 AM »
Oh, there was this. So you lied?
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2025, 11:52:01 AM »
How can you be anonymous and still WRONG?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Re: This Is How A NYSS/NYSHBDF Trustee Addresses The Breeders Of NYS???
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2025, 09:46:12 PM »
Let's add some clarity and facts to this:

Steve Jones is a third generation and world renowned breeder and farm owner.
Steve was, at one time, or currently is:
Trustee of the (Agriculture) New York State Horse Breeding Fund (and he was directly and was personally involved with securing a record purse structure for the New York Sire Stakes program for 2025).
Breeder of King Of The North, Check Me Out, Deweycheatumnhowe, Well Said, and Goalie Jeff.
President of Goshen Historic Track.
Trustee of the Harness Racing Museum & Hall of Fame.
A Director of the Hambletonian Society and Vice President of the Grand Circuit.
A recipient of the Monticello-Goshen USHWA John Manzi Leadership Award.

That said, Steve sent an email to his constituents. Now you have a person, not their constituent, who has zero standing and stature in the industry, who has a well-known, public, and long-standing hard-on for Steve; this person takes the email-----creates and adds his own interpretation, take various statements and comments out of context, and manipulates the intent of the email, simply to: one, further his own agenda and his own personal vendetta against Steve; and two, simply to besmirch and damage Steve.

In the end, nothing will happen (to Steve) as a result of this email. Exactly the opposite actually. Nobody but this person will have a problem with the email. Sure, you will hear all kinds of innuendos, the media this, the breeders that, and so on. All of it is BS. Steve has always been an advocate for breeders in NY. Breeders support him. The statements Steve made in the email are reflective of the breeding industry and some of what the current landscape is. But make no mistake, Steve's motivation is for the benefit of breeders, to improve the industry. Steve is not sabotaging breeders, or the breeding industry. In reality, this person is. Read the entire email. Talk to breeders. Draw your own conclusions-----because this person is obviously not objective and unbiased.
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