Gural cuts off CAWs at 2 MTP

[pocketrocketwinner]

From win pool only. Just like NYRA.
Decision was absolutely necessary. Skewed exotic prices will be a certaintly. Get prepared

[Yonkers1A]

From win pool only. Just like NYRA.
Decision was absolutely necessary. Skewed exotic prices will be a certaintly. Get prepared

It’s a start, all pools for CAW’s should close 2 minutes to post

[Papillon]

It’s a start, all pools for CAW’s should close 2 minutes to post

that would disable their "pool analysis"--negating their edge--and they wouldnt play

massive handle loss if you do that

at least in the win pool-you now will have some idea of a horses off odds--but the pickpocketing still occurs in exotics and horizontals

its just not a good look for a horse to drop from 9/2 to 3/5 at the half

NYRA did this in 2018 when Firenze Fire went from 9/2 to 6/5 in the Dwyer stakes way after the race started

Mohawk should try this

[SwankToliverA]

that would disable their "pool analysis"--negating their edge--and they wouldnt play

massive handle loss if you do that

at least in the win pool-you now will have some idea of a horses off odds--but the pickpocketing still occurs in exotics and horizontals

its just not a good look for a horse to drop from 9/2 to 3/5 at the half

NYRA did this in 2018 when Firenze Fire went from 9/2 to 6/5 in the Dwyer stakes way after the race started

Mohawk should try this

Last Friday at Woodbine a horse was 3/1 at post time and same odds going around the oval. Horse won and ended up 3/5 after the race. Smh

[gh2009]

What ticks me off the most is when I play a 2-1 shot right before the start and it winds up at 4-5 and loses. There's no way I would have bet the horse at 4-5.

[Brown jug]

swank
if you have the name and details make a claim with the agco
at least then its on file

[Kenny]

It’s a start, all pools for CAW’s should close 2 minutes to post

I have been proposing for a long time that wagering should end a post time and the starting gate should not move until after wagering is shut off. If that is not enough time, then the starting gate could wait 2 minutes or more to start moving. That solves more than one problem.  If wagering is shut off at post time, there is not benefit to have post time drag.

[Papillon]

swank
if you have the name and details make a claim with the agco
at least then its on file

AGCO knows Elite Turf Club is doing this

[Papillon]

I have been proposing for a long time that wagering should end a post time and the starting gate should not move until after wagering is shut off. If that is not enough time, then the starting gate could wait 2 minutes or more to start moving. That solves more than one problem.  If wagering is shut off at post time, there is not benefit to have post time drag.

if the industry stopping betting after the race--there would be a massive handle loss that they are not willing to absorb

[seriously]

They put up a new mailbox at the crack/murder rape house on the other side of town.  Much better!

The "optics" of win odds dropping is hardly the first thing I would suggest fixing in harness racing.

[Papillon]

They put up a new mailbox at the crack/murder rape house on the other side of town.  Much better!

The "optics" of win odds dropping is hardly the first thing I would suggest fixing in harness racing.

that may be true--but seriously, Mr. Seriously-it needs to be recognized more than it is now

[Kenny]

if the industry stopping betting after the race--there would be a massive handle loss that they are not willing to absorb

Please provide proof of this accusation.  If this is true on a large scale it is a massive fraud.

[Papillon]

Please provide proof of this accusation.  If this is true on a large scale it is a massive fraud.

please look up some articles about how Elite Turf Club operates-it gives a small hint of how they make millions operating this way

[Kenny]

please look up some articles about how Elite Turf Club operates-it gives a small hint of how they make millions operating this way

In other worlds you have no proof.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Gural allows CAW's with no cut-off time, people complain.

Gural now sets the cut-off at 2 minutes, win pool only, and it's not enough, so people complain.

The way I see it, it doesn't matter what Gural does, it will never be enough for some people, so they will complain.

Sounds to me like those people can't be satisfied, no matter what Gural does.....unless he does exactly what they want. Right, there's a reasonable solution. LOL.