Lack Of Effort Drive UPDATE:

[gh2009]

If he did, which I extremely doubt, the trifecta and superfecta prices weren't out of line at all. I find it hard to believe a driver making $600,000 a year is betting at all especially against himself, way too much to lose doing that.

[Papillon]

If he did, which I extremely doubt, the trifecta and superfecta prices weren't out of line at all. I find it hard to believe a driver making $600,000 a year is betting at all especially against himself, way too much to lose doing that.

those pools are too small to make any money


horizontals like pick5 and pick6s would be the logical spots-but with Elite seeing every combination played before they send it in--it is probably not worth it

wagers outside the pools, offshore, bookies, etc would be the only way to make a big bet

why would Bartlett do this?
his explanation has a smell to it...obviously he grabbed him late-finishing 5th instead of 2nd

[gh2009]

Who knows what his explanation was for grabbing up, maybe he felt something, but I don't think it was to cash a bet.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

The top drivers like Bartlett don't bet their own money. They have clients that do it in exchange for info. Bartlett was caught and should never be allowed to set foot on M1 property but read the Bible..."Money is the root of all evil"..Translation..Th e people who rule are complicit and compromised.

[Ignorance Is Bliss]

The top drivers like Bartlett don't bet their own money. They have clients that do it in exchange for info. Bartlett was caught and should never be allowed to set foot on M1 property but read the Bible..."Money is the root of all evil"..Translation..Th e people who rule are complicit and compromised.

The proof used to be kept in the center console of a white Lexus.

[simplify]

Maybe....I just don't see how he gets anything financially out of stiffing a horse compared to his income.
Keeping a horse in the same class and cashing checks...that I get.

[Ignorance Is Bliss]

Maybe....I just don't see how he gets anything financially out of stiffing a horse compared to his income.
Keeping a horse in the same class and cashing checks...that I get.

There are other benefits to putting a bad line on one. Think about it.

[Harness racer]

Maybe....I just don't see how he gets anything financially out of stiffing a horse compared to his income.
Keeping a horse in the same class and cashing checks...that I get.

Someone gives him an envelope with $1000 or $2500 or whatever it is in it to not be on the board.  How does that not make him money?  More than he’d get for winning a race in that class. 

[Harness racer]

There are other benefits to putting a bad line on one. Think about it.

Cash a ticket not being on the board that night, cash another ticket on that horse at higher odds down the road.  People can’t be this clueless can they mike?   

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

The proof used to be kept in the center console of a white Lexus.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

There are other benefits to putting a bad line on one. Think about it.

Correct

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Someone gives him an envelope with $1000 or $2500 or whatever it is in it to not be on the board.  How does that not make him money?  More than he’d get for winning a race in that class.

It happens more than you know.

[Ignorance Is Bliss]

Cash a ticket not being on the board that night, cash another ticket on that horse at higher odds down the road.  People can’t be this clueless can they mike?   

Or ...repeat what was done to Mike Rizzo last year at Yonkers with his good mare. Come back get off the bike and on the ramp say Per Engnloms owner wants to buy her. He says no. Two weeks later he's barred from Yonkers.

[gh2009]

I get what you're saying but why get that close in the first place if your goal is to run out. Get locked in, follow dead cover, break your horse to avoid what he ended up doing.

[Birdfantammy]

Cash a ticket not being on the board that night, cash another ticket on that horse at higher odds down the road.  People can’t be this clueless can they mike?   

BINGO!   EXXXXXACTLY 100% THIS !

Trainer is involved also...wants bigger odds on the horse next out....happens in both SB and TB .