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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2025, 08:19:38 AM »
I am in no way defending his actions, but if you wanted to make sure you're not in the top 4, why get that close in the first place?

EXACTLY!! I knew several drivers very closely, from the "old days" in the early 70's at RR and YR, and when they wanted to be "out" they knew what to do without having to look "stiff" near the wire.  I did notice that his horse veered out going into the first turn and just about interfered with the 6, and they also blazed the 2nd Q in 26.4 to a 54 half, so he was gapped back and even was gapping his cover till he flipped him out in the lane and built some good momentum.. and then, as you say, just went "chill"..

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« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2025, 11:54:37 AM »
EXACTLY!! I knew several drivers very closely, from the "old days" in the early 70's at RR and YR, and when they wanted to be "out" they knew what to do without having to look "stiff" near the wire.  I did notice that his horse veered out going into the first turn and just about interfered with the 6, and they also blazed the 2nd Q in 26.4 to a 54 half, so he was gapped back and even was gapping his cover till he flipped him out in the lane and built some good momentum.. and then, as you say, just went "chill"..

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2025, 07:12:40 PM »
Can someone post the replay of Jason Bartlett stretch drive and compare this one to one on Saturday night. Watch his stretch drive Yonkers 1st race Tuesday night what a difference huh?

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2025, 08:56:40 PM »
Can someone post the replay of Jason Bartlett stretch drive and compare this one to one on Saturday night. Watch his stretch drive Yonkers 1st race Tuesday night what a difference huh?

https://youtu.be/Fen7NH_bp2o
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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2025, 09:25:21 PM »
The optics are bad. The Meadowlands should have made a statement...in my opinion.

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« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2025, 09:30:11 PM »
The optics are bad. The Meadowlands should have made a statement...in my opinion.

Well let me fill you in on that. Last year I hand delivered info regarding this individual directly to Jason Settlemoir regarding the gentleman in question suggesting others to go down as trainer for Josh Marks. Now right there should be enough right? Along with the literal road map connecting a few of the Marks beards and who the pivot man was. Know what happened? In the end I am banned from M1. The End.
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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2025, 09:33:33 PM »
Well let me fill you in on that. Last year I hand delivered info regarding this individual directly to Jason Settlemoir regarding the gentleman in question suggesting others to go down as trainer for Josh Marks. Now right there should be enough right? Along with the literal road map connecting a few of the Marks beards and who the pivot man was. Know what happened? In the end I am banned from M1. The End.

Did you ever speak to an investigator about this incident with JB?  I called the number I posted twice and no one ever answered.

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« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2025, 09:46:16 PM »
Did you ever speak to an investigator about this incident with JB?  I called the number I posted twice and no one ever answered.

Reasons I trust nobody inside the game. Last year, I tried Settlemoir first, initially he called in Brice. All he said was you need to hear this I think we need to make a call across the river. HIS WORDS, and he told me that's the FBI. Brice took me in the conference room and bullshitted me for a half hour promising me that when all the files are unsealed I would be the first to have them. Meaning the whole FBI investigation. My bullshit o meter exploded. Now maybe everyone will understand why the second time I was taken into the conference room I recorded it. Do you people think I'm stupid? And yes I filed a report "across the river".  I didn't even bother with the NJRC. However I did have a really nice talk with Chris Seagreaves last year when he stopped by Dreamland. Two things he said were, Jeff Gural thinks he runs the FBI and Brice still thinks he has his NJ State Police badge. And that he acts like the NJRC answers to him. And you all know what happened to me when I went public. I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can throw them. Really sit back and think about everything that happens. What happened with all these people who were BANNED by Mr. Gural that he spoke of on 60 Minutes. Those on the FBI failed test list. Maybe I forgot how to read, but aren't most of those names back in the program? Except for one, Howard Taylor. Because that's just a pissing match. It all ends like this, if you dare speak up you are FUCKED. By all of them. Guys who have abused, drugged and killed horses while screwing the public are still racing. An idiot like me who has ZERO penalties training, nobody ever heard of or bothered anyone complains about ice at Goshen and posts it online is now enemy #1 of the game. Most of you sit here focused on me while the real crooks fuck you in your asses every day, and you take it. And yes I got in contact with Seagreaves about JB. What's being done, your guess is as good as mine.
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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #68 on: April 15, 2025, 10:19:38 PM »
Reasons I trust nobody inside the game. Last year, I tried Settlemoir first, initially he called in Brice. All he said was you need to hear this I think we need to make a call across the river. HIS WORDS, and he told me that's the FBI. Brice took me in the conference room and bullshitted me for a half hour promising me that when all the files are unsealed I would be the first to have them. Meaning the whole FBI investigation. My bullshit o meter exploded. Now maybe everyone will understand why the second time I was taken into the conference room I recorded it. Do you people think I'm stupid? And yes I filed a report "across the river".  I didn't even bother with the NJRC. However I did have a really nice talk with Chris Seagreaves last year when he stopped by Dreamland. Two things he said were, Jeff Gural thinks he runs the FBI and Brice still thinks he has his NJ State Police badge. And that he acts like the NJRC answers to him. And you all know what happened to me when I went public. I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can throw them. Really sit back and think about everything that happens. What happened with all these people who were BANNED by Mr. Gural that he spoke of on 60 Minutes. Those on the FBI failed test list. Maybe I forgot how to read, but aren't most of those names back in the program? Except for one, Howard Taylor. Because that's just a pissing match. It all ends like this, if you dare speak up you are FUCKED. By all of them. Guys who have abused, drugged and killed horses while screwing the public are still racing. An idiot like me who has ZERO penalties training, nobody ever heard of or bothered anyone complains about ice at Goshen and posts it online is now enemy #1 of the game. Most of you sit here focused on me while the real crooks fuck you in your asses every day, and you take it. And yes I got in contact with Seagreaves about JB. What's being done, your guess is as good as mine.
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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #69 on: April 15, 2025, 10:45:59 PM »
ALL BULLSHIT! If you people believe this I have a car to sell you. Stick to knowing what you know best... collecting food stamps and collecting welfare checks.

Bomgiorno and DiDomenico were on the list, banned temporarily and then gural allowed them back to race there. Basically mocking the fbi investigation. I realize you are somehow connected to this situation and these people and are desparately trying to up end petrellis efforts to save more horses from being abused by power posting here. But those 2 barns are currently racing. Fact.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #70 on: April 15, 2025, 10:51:54 PM »
Can someone post the replay of Jason Bartlett stretch drive and compare this one to one on Saturday night. Watch his stretch drive Yonkers 1st race Tuesday night what a difference huh?

The biggest difference is Gural.He doesn’t allow a horse to be hit like that at  at The Meadowlands.
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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2025, 11:38:02 PM »
He wasn't even trying to hide that.  Running in my ass!  That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple.  He needs 30 days for that bullshit!  Cheating POS!  Someone please post points of contact for M1...they need to get flooded with complaints about that one!

Why 30 days ??
He’s fixing the outcome of a sporting event.
Jail !!!
AND put the shit that paid him, probably Andrew from Monticello in the adjacent cell.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2025, 08:17:24 AM »
Why 30 days ??
He’s fixing the outcome of a sporting event.
Jail !!!
AND put the shit that paid him, probably Andrew from Monticello in the adjacent cell.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #73 on: April 16, 2025, 09:03:48 AM »
The optics are bad. The Meadowlands should have made a statement...in my opinion.

Absolutely. If they didn't take action ASAP, they should have made a statement as to what they were going to do and when. Unless he was talked to within 24 to 48 hours, then this too is bad optics. Doing nothing and silence makes it worse.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #74 on: April 16, 2025, 12:41:59 PM »
Bomgiorno and DiDomenico were on the list, banned temporarily and then gural allowed them back to race there. Basically mocking the fbi investigation. I realize you are somehow connected to this situation and these people and are desparately trying to up end petrellis efforts to save more horses from being abused by power posting here. But those 2 barns are currently racing. Fact.

this is the part Gural supporters would like to sweep under the rug

he claims to clean up the sport-but apparently has partnerships with Bongiorno, Burke, Julie Miller, etc and there are a different set of rules for them

 

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