Pat Crowe died...

[Grandstand Handicapper]

A lot of people don't remember, or don't know, that Pat Crowe didn't select, break, and develop Cam Fella. None other than, Doug Arthur did, and he was a great, underrated horsemen. Cam Fella was for sale throughout his 2yo year, which was pretty ordinary, so he didn't get a lot of attention.....unt il he won his last start of the year in the Valedictory final at Greenwood. After that race is when "the two Norm's" bought him.

Yes, Marty Allen drove Its Fritz in that race. Cam Fella had a few (I think three) good races with Its Fritz. Its Fritz was kind of a green 4yo, but he was super fast. After the big one at the Big M, it wasn't much of a battle. The media tried to make it an Ali-Frazier kind of thing (and they kind of did the same with Merger), but the reality is the two horses were not even in the same league. Carl did in fact drive Its Fritz when he raced against Cam Fella again in the Blue Bonnets Challenge Cup. After Pat pulled and went by Its Fritz, it was over. Its Fritz was off the board. Its Fritz was super fast, but didn't have the heart, the guts, the toughness, etc. Of course Cam Fella got syndicated, and not only did that not go so well at the beginning, but neither did his 4yo year, LOL. I think he lost 4 out of his first 5, then got DQ'ed. I think he got beat in one more start.....and then.....well, we all know what happened after that. LOL.

[Brkn Headpole]

A lot of people don't remember, or don't know, that Pat Crowe didn't select, break, and develop Cam Fella. None other than, Doug Arthur did, and he was a great, underrated horsemen. Cam Fella was for sale throughout his 2yo year, which was pretty ordinary, so he didn't get a lot of attention.....unt il he won his last start of the year in the Valedictory final at Greenwood. After that race is when "the two Norm's" bought him.

Yes, Marty Allen drove Its Fritz in that race. Cam Fella had a few (I think three) good races with Its Fritz. Its Fritz was kind of a green 4yo, but he was super fast. After the big one at the Big M, it wasn't much of a battle. The media tried to make it an Ali-Frazier kind of thing (and they kind of did the same with Merger), but the reality is the two horses were not even in the same league. Carl did in fact drive Its Fritz when he raced against Cam Fella again in the Blue Bonnets Challenge Cup. After Pat pulled and went by Its Fritz, it was over. Its Fritz was off the board. Its Fritz was super fast, but didn't have the heart, the guts, the toughness, etc. Of course Cam Fella got syndicated, and not only did that not go so well at the beginning, but neither did his 4yo year, LOL. I think he lost 4 out of his first 5, then got DQ'ed. I think he got beat in one more start.....and then.....well, we all know what happened after that. LOL.

I was going to mention that Doug Arthur developed Cam Fella. He also was responsible for Bo Knows Jate, Cinnamon Reel and a few other good ones that escape my memory. Nevertheless condolences to the Crowe family.

[Mazola]

I was going to mention that Doug Arthur developed Cam Fella. He also was responsible for Bo Knows Jate, Cinnamon Reel and a few other good ones that escape my memory. Nevertheless condolences to the Crowe family.

Justin Passing was another good one.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I was going to mention that Doug Arthur developed Cam Fella. He also was responsible for Bo Knows Jate, Cinnamon Reel and a few other good ones that escape my memory. Nevertheless condolences to the Crowe family.

Justin Passing was another good one.

Yes, Justin Passing, and add Diamond River and Mystery Skipper to that list. Like I said, Doug was a very underrated horseman, but an exceptional horseman. He was a great judge of horseflesh and he knew when he had a good one. You could always tell by how he priced them, LOL.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Buddy was the real trainer of Cam Fella as a 4 year old. Crowe would just fly in and drive.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

I often wondered what the outcome would have been if Cam Fella raced against Niatross as he was never seriously tested except the horror trips at Saratoga and Meadowlands Pace elimination. Gun to my head, Niatross would beat Cam Fella, but I'm not so sure. Cam Fella is an immortal.

Niatross was a MUCH better racehorse and is on most lists as an all time great. Cam Fella lost 19 races. I'm sorry, you don't get to be called great if you lose 19 races. Cam Fella was a superior sire though and that should count for something.

[Mazola]

Niatross was a MUCH better racehorse and is on most lists as an all time great. Cam Fella lost 19 races. I'm sorry, you don't get to be called great if you lose 19 races. Cam Fella was a superior sire though and that should count for something.

I'd say winning 28 consecutive qualifies and the way he did it, qualifies

[Papillon]

Niatross was a MUCH better racehorse and is on most lists as an all time great. Cam Fella lost 19 races. I'm sorry, you don't get to be called great if you lose 19 races. Cam Fella was a superior sire though and that should count for something.

OK Karl

you are the grand master of knowledge

[Brown jug]

well cam fella raced 80 times, won 61
was top 3 in 75 of 80
he ducked NOBODY!!!

[Grandstand Handicapper]

https://paquetvideo.tripod.com/Pat_Crowe.pdf

Just a bit of an interesting interview with Pat Crowe (from 1997).

I am looking for another one he did-----two parts-----one right after Cam Fella's not so good start of his 4yo season, and then right before Cam Fella retired. It was very interesting about how he handled his first 5 or 6 starts when he got beat, DQ'ed, wasn't right, etc., and then what he did with him. Well, whatever it was, training, equipment, etc., the big horse went on to win 28 in a row!

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I often wondered what the outcome would have been if Cam Fella raced against Niatross as he was never seriously tested except the horror trips at Saratoga and Meadowlands Pace elimination. Gun to my head, Niatross would beat Cam Fella, but I'm not so sure. Cam Fella is an immortal.

Cam Fella and Niatross raced within 2-3 years of each other. I point that out because it's a fallacious argument to ask "what if" with horses from different eras. Even as short as 10 years, for sure 15.

That said, there was much more a discussion with Nihilator and On The Road Again as they both raced in the same year (1985), when Nihilator was 3 and OTRA was 4. There was foolish talk of a match race, but that was never going to happen, but what was thrown around as a possibility was possibly putting together a race where Nihilator would race against aged horses (and OTRA). Joe DeFrank bantered around the idea with both connections, but it never got out of the starting gate really. I think the talk was after Nihilator failed to break the WR in the time trial, and ultimately ended his 3yo year and career with winning the Breeders Crown (at Garden State Park), could they get some aged race at GSP and attract both horses. Obviously, it never happened. 

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

OK Karl

you are the grand master of knowledge

You mean the only trotter in harness racing history to earn over 1 million at 2yo and at 3yo. PS...He earned more than Cam Fella on the racetrack and he may earn more. hahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaha hahaha douchebag

[oh canada]

Good guy......he really was a legend !! Rest easy and see you at the big track in the sky .

[oh canada]

Yes, Justin Passing, and add Diamond River and Mystery Skipper to that list. Like I said, Doug was a very underrated horseman, but an exceptional horseman. He was a great judge of horseflesh and he knew when he had a good one. You could always tell by how he priced them, LOL.

Kingsbridge BC winner at 3 for Roger Mayotte

[Bitter Truth]

That was at Nfld a week or two after Jug, Had him off the rail in Jug, didn't do shit
then wins at 35-1 in BC ggrrrrrrrr Not my best memory.