Beckwith and Mcassey

[Cobalt Kenny]

Both guys are off to great starts at Saratoga..althoug h Brett doesn't seem to have a whole lot of competition...not until Hennessey gets back in the spring..(and I think Wally is gonna be 84)...but Jaymes horses were all Giant to start the meet.
Good trainer and a better guy. Good luck to all, especially me

[Locked in with pace]

Every year he starts out strong.  His horses are always ready to go to start the meet. He has good owners who get him horses to fit the conditions.

[Cobalt Kenny]

Every year he starts out strong.  His horses are always ready to go to start the meet. He has good owners who get him horses to fit the conditions.

You mean he actually jogged and trained his horses during the lay-off? This place was a ghost town until 2 weeks before the opening..then everybody came out of the woodwork and was training the fur off their horses. As far as trainers having horses that fit the conditions..the top 4-5 trainers all do it Only difference is Jaymes doesn't pay 25-30,000 for his, to race in maidens, NW2 etc..Thats some condition sheet that moron of a race secretary has put together...4-5 guys get all the money here

[Cobalt Kenny]

It's nothing for Jackie Greene, Beckwith etc to give 50,60,70,000 for horses to race in NW1,NW2, or W2-5. Look at the money Levine gives for horses..I was told he paid 75,000 for one that races in NW2500 and can't get a sniff

[The Unstable]

Every year he starts out strong.  His horses are always ready to go to start the meet. He has good owners who get him horses to fit the conditions.

he raced his horses through the Saratoga break at the Meadowlands so his horses are sharper then the ones who took 6 weeks off.  Big advantage.

[Locked in with pace]

You mean he actually jogged and trained his horses during the lay-off? This place was a ghost town until 2 weeks before the opening..then everybody came out of the woodwork and was training the fur off their horses. As far as trainers having horses that fit the conditions..the top 4-5 trainers all do it Only difference is Jaymes doesn't pay 25-30,000 for his, to race in maidens, NW2 etc..Thats some condition sheet that moron of a race secretary has put together...4-5 guys get all the money here

THEN SHAME ON YOU AND OTHER TRAINERS AND OWNERS FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO READ A CONDITION SHEET.

[Cobalt Kenny]

You mean he actually jogged and trained his horses during the lay-off? This place was a ghost town until 2 weeks before the opening..then everybody came out of the woodwork and was training the fur off their horses. As far as trainers having horses that fit the conditions..the top 4-5 trainers all do it Only difference is Jaymes doesn't pay 25-30,000 for his, to race in maidens, NW2 etc..Thats some condition sheet that moron of a race secretary has put together...4-5 guys get all the money here

THEN SHAME ON YOU AND OTHER TRAINERS AND OWNERS FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO READ A CONDITION SHEET.

1st of all, this thread was started to congratulate Brett and Jaymes on their quick starts, 2nd, Im pretty sure I have no trouble reading a condition sheet, in fact, being able to read it - is the problem, and 3rd- SHAME ON ME AND OTHER TRAINERS NO- SHAME ON SHEEP WORMER AND OUTLAWED HORMONES

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Perhaps I am missing the point here. One, it doesn't matter what you pay for a horse. It matters what the horse is at race time. If he's a good horse he'll win out of his condition. Two starts, four, whatever. Period. A good, high-priced horse is not ruining the racing for everybody else forever. If he's not a good horse, no problem. then the rest of the field should be competitive. Two, if trainers are procrastinators, late, lazy, don't know how to run a barn, etc.---then shame on them. Blaming others, finding excuses, and the like is just a cop-out. Lastly, the condition sheet is the condition sheet. Good or bad. Favors some and not others. The day it comes out, as a trainer, you know what you are dealing with. Some trainers go into a new meet with the planets aligning and can crank out a bunch of wins simply because their horses are eligible to certain conditions, timing, etc., and the condition sheet favored them. Others have the opposite and they can't win a two-horse race, LOL.

[Cobalt Kenny]

Perhaps I am missing the point here. One, it doesn't matter what you pay for a horse. It matters what the horse is at race time. If he's a good horse he'll win out of his condition. Two starts, four, whatever. Period. A good, high-priced horse is not ruining the racing for everybody else forever. If he's not a good horse, no problem. then the rest of the field should be competitive. Two, if trainers are procrastinators, late, lazy, don't know how to run a barn, etc.---then shame on them. Blaming others, finding excuses, and the like is just a cop-out. Lastly, the condition sheet is the condition sheet. Good or bad. Favors some and not others. The day it comes out, as a trainer, you know what you are dealing with. Some trainers go into a new meet with the planets aligning and can crank out a bunch of wins simply because their horses are eligible to certain conditions, timing, etc., and the condition sheet favored them. Others have the opposite and they can't win a two-horse race, LOL.

Good points, all I was saying earlier is you can technically win 15-16 parimutuel wins in NW2LT at Saratoga with that condition sheet..not a level playing field and horrible as far as gambling goes

[MCR]

Good points, all I was saying earlier is you can technically win 15-16 parimutuel wins in NW2LT at Saratoga with that condition sheet..not a level playing field and horrible as far as gambling goes

Everyone has a chance to take advantage of the same condition sheet!

[Cobalt Kenny]

Everyone has a chance to take advantage of the same condition sheet!

Yes but not great for the handle

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Good points, all I was saying earlier is you can technically win 15-16 parimutuel wins in NW2LT at Saratoga with that condition sheet..not a level playing field and horrible as far as gambling goes

If that's the case, then every horse eligible has the same chance, absent 1 win vs 2, and money. But if your eligible, you're in. How is not a level playing field? The betting aspect is a separate and distinct discussion.

Everyone has a chance to take advantage of the same condition sheet!

Absolutely. It either goes your way or it doesn't.

[Cobalt Kenny]

Everyone has a chance to take advantage of the same condition sheet!

and yes..everybody has a chance to take advantage of the condition sheet but only a handful can afford to

[MCR]

and yes..everybody has a chance to take advantage of the condition sheet but only a handful can afford to

Then they shouldn't be in the business or pack your harness bags and go to Monticello

[Mr.Turnpike]

Both guys are off to great starts at Saratoga..althoug h Brett doesn't seem to have a whole lot of competition...not until Hennessey gets back in the spring..(and I think Wally is gonna be 84)...but Jaymes horses were all Giant to start the meet.
Good trainer and a better guy. Good luck to all, especially me

     Stop being silly Mcassey and race office connections = zero positive tests ever at Saratoga and as far as Beckwith easy to win when you drive horses lay over fields