can we stop with the initials of breeders etc when naming foals

[jupiter]

Armbro, Avon, White Devon (Barmin/Minbar) Collins, Blue Chip, That's just New York, who cares, if ya want, pick your own name. I've bought from all of them. They don't care, they're the breeder.

[kantseeback]

Love the armbro horses!

ARMBRO ANIMATE p,1:50.1 ($1,346,458)

Armstrong brothers.
What ever happened to Almahurst?

[kantseeback]

I remember for a while Carl and Rod Allen bred a few and started their names with CR.

[kantseeback]

Herve and Henri Fillion bred a few way back and started their names with HH.

[Lance]

My buddy lives in Boulder Block Creek.  All his horses were BBC, like BBC Larry, BBC Montel,  BBC Leroy.   I few went on to be decent studs.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I couldn't care less what breeders name their foals. Historically this was common, Armstrong, Hanover, Lobell, Almahurst, etc. For commercial breeders it was name recognition. But, when their foals were sold, of course the new owners could change their name. Other commercial breeders followed suit, some followed other naming tracks, and others didn't at all. When Joe Thomson and Ed Gold first started Whitehorse Farm (the precursor to Winbak), in the early days they named many of their early foals using financial terms as they both had financial backgrounds.

FYI:

That said, Almahurst of course wound down over the years, had a major dispersal, and the farm was eventually sold to thoroughbred owner/breeder Ken Ramsey. He has since sold off most of the farm.

The original HH moniker was that of NJ's own Heritage Hill Farms, which was owned and operated by the Dey Family. This was back when they were commercial breeders. Perhaps one of the best known was world champion HH Shadow (a filly), who finished second in the Cane Pace. Heritage Hill also stood HOTY Isle of Wight, and one of the last stallions they stood was Jaguar Spur. The Dey family has a long and well known history in NJ racing, the NJ Sire Stakes program, and NJ breeding as well. They eventually stopped using the HH moniker. Several of the family members became very prominent vets, Dr. Steve Dey (II), and his sons, Dr. Steve Dey III, and Dr. Greg Dey.

[Deadbeat]

R Ridiculous

[SDST2009]

Putting the breeders info in the program under the ownership has to be the dumbest thing ever. Gamblers don't care about that stuff. Who comes up with these ideas anyway, why not concentrate on fixing what is broken. As for the names, I always change my yearlings name.

Why not include it? These horse come from somewhere. If not for the breeders, the sport falls on its ass (more than it already is). Not only do you want to take their naming conventions, but also any mention of them at all.

Racing has its problems but listing the breeder in the program surely isn't one of them.

[Kole Hanover]

I don't think Leavitt ever used a letter system for Lobell.  Back in those days the most famous breeder to do that was the Armstrong Brothers.  The Armbros all had the same letter for their last name which would change every year.

  But they had used  "Lobell" when naming horses

[The Exporter]

A regional breeder in New Hampshire many years back used the moniker, Mountain in naming his foals. He also used the alphabet in the first name of the foal. I remember in 1978 he was at letter J . Mountain Jester, Mountain Jiggle...

[Mazola]

My buddy lives in Boulder Block Creek.  All his horses were BBC, like BBC Larry, BBC Montel,  BBC Leroy.   I few went on to be decent studs.

Absolutely. BBC Lover, BBC Bare, BBC Queen of Spades etc. All good.

[Kole Hanover]

 
Earnest P. Worrell

 "Pembroke"



 

[GETSOME]

Putting the breeders info in the program under the ownership has to be the dumbest thing ever. Gamblers don't care about that stuff. Who comes up with these ideas anyway, why not concentrate on fixing what is broken. As for the names, I always change my yearlings name.
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Sometimes you have no choice - there are some really bad names out there!

[Lance]

Absolutely. BBC Lover, BBC Bare, BBC Queen of Spades etc. All good.

Oh yea, I remember going two trips with BBC Bare.  Kant-See Back, Knee boots and a tounge tie.