KARL

[SDST2009]

Short memory? Won 18 of 23 lifetime and 21 and 23 in the money. “Inability to string together more than a couple races without the wheels falling off” Huh?

His pedigree is no worse than Walner or Chapter Seven the two best trotting sires in the sport.

I hear what you're saying, but I think no one here can say the horse lived up to expectations/touting at 3. Maybe those expectations were too high. I would clarify my original statement to include "at 3". I couldn't wait to see him race at 3, based on what he did at 2, but I don't think he was particularly safe at 2 either - just that good.  I mean, someone on here said he'd go down as one of the greatest trotters in history. Hey, maybe he comes back at 4 and proves that. I'm just not holding my breath.

[The Answer]

Actually agree he wasn’t the three year old a lot of people thought he would be. Heard in the paddock the other night that the injury was at the end of his two year old season. So that might explain it. Some here give him no credit for his dominant two year old career and bring horses like Kismet up as being better who never raced as a two year old and never won a big race outside of CA.

[Harness racer]

The horse had no chance to live up to the high expectations people set. Fact is he made $2 million and we will have to wait and see how he comes back.

[SDST2009]

Actually agree he wasn’t the three year old a lot of people thought he would be. Heard in the paddock the other night that the injury was at the end of his two year old season. So that might explain it. Some here give him no credit for his dominant two year old career and bring horses like Kismet up as being better who never raced as a two year old and never won a big race outside of CA.

Kismet, assuming he wasn't hurt, does strike me as a horse that could come forward at 4. So many of these things aren't actually ready at 2, so I don't hold that against him. But yes, clearly the current body of work shows Karl as the better horse. I would love to see them both come back sound and see where the chips may fall.

[Parked]

Sooner or later breeding always shows up..

[Locked in with pace]

   An option is to sell him to overseas connections. Race and Breed there. Its very common

[Stan durbread]

   An option is to sell him to overseas connections. Race and Breed there. Its very common

What makes you think they would be interested in an infertile Stallion with a blown suspensory?

[Grandstand Handicapper]

At retirement, Bender did not want him for an overseas stallion. They made that clear. Now that he's coming back, who knows. Obviously this is a "Plan B" so to speak.