Who do you think was the last trainer to win a race on hay, oats, and water?

[Loose Horse]

Mayotte

I'll allow it.

[bond]

Chuck Sylvester?  . The king of Equipoise?

And a Cobalt positive--for which he got a slap on the wrist--and in NY they just issued a veteran -a 10 year suspension for Cobalt-and he had a spotless record--a perfect example of how Law Enforcement is applied in Harness racing.
 

[kantseeback]

Ben Hur.

[bond]

Ben Hur.

Sorry--Ben Hur lived in a time where horses were given all manner of Performance enhancers--like wine and opiates."materia medica" they called it. I dont believe any horse that would have been in a competition event --would have passed todays testing.

[kantseeback]

Sorry--Ben Hur lived in a time where horses were given all manner of Performance enhancers--like wine and opiates."materia medica" they called it. I dont believe any horse that would have been in a competition event --would have passed todays testing.

So, Ben Hur was the first juicer?

[Chips N Salsa]

The guy from Ohio that had Arocknrolldance was heck of a trainer.  The Yoder guy from Indiana is very very good too.

[Jctoronto]

Ok I'll ask.

Many young females lead the horses out..many are daughters, girlfriends, best friends...not all but many.
They work VERY hard.

The question: How many of these young innocents ARE PRIVY to loading up their best equine friend or overhear of it or are knowledgable of it as they get their cut of a board hit' or win?

Therefore....is any horseman or horsewoman old or young capable to be in the dark about horse 'medical adjustments'?

Would ANY groom or asst trainer BLOW THE WHISTLE for the welfare of their animal?

If the answer is;  shhhhhh it's always been like this, then Asst trainer or groom or stable friends should be suspended too from the grounds while their big daddy or mama trainer gets cuffed.

And how about drivers who are fully knowledgable too...where is there suspension for allowing the steed in their on track care to perform with &$#@ in their system.

[Lar4400]

Charlie Fitzpatrick

[Chips N Salsa]

Ok I'll ask.

Many young females lead the horses out..many are daughters, girlfriends, best friends...not all but many.
They work VERY hard.

The question: How many of these young innocents ARE PRIVY to loading up their best equine friend or overhear of it or are knowledgable of it as they get their cut of a board hit' or win?

Therefore....is any horseman or horsewoman old or young capable to be in the dark about horse 'medical adjustments'?

Would ANY groom or asst trainer BLOW THE WHISTLE for the welfare of their animal?

If the answer is;  shhhhhh it's always been like this, then Asst trainer or groom or stable friends should be suspended too from the grounds while their big daddy or mama trainer gets cuffed.

And how about drivers who are fully knowledgable too...where is there suspension for allowing the steed in their on track care to perform with &$#@ in their system.

Hell no - You think sarah is gonna rat ake?  you think nancy will rat her father?  If your a groom and you rat your trainer is done and so are you.  who is gonna hire you after your known rat.  You might as well call it a career.  You think julie will rat on andy or vice versa?   Casie got out and has surrendered all her trainers licenses so not she untouchable.  Very few rats in the game and most are known.

[seen2much]

Gentleman Jim Doherty

[jupiter]

Larry and Ray Remmen

[shuffledagain]

John Konesky III

[Loose Horse]

Garth Gordon was my nominee. Keeping Mel Corbett on the shelf for the moment.

[Yonkers1A]

Paul Revere.

 

[getreal]

In Western New York, Gary Gregory and Ken Ball