Serious breeding question

[Sweet Louis]

I learned how to read a program at 10..I'm 50 now so I've been around this sport a long time....now yes I'm quite aware of breeding but what makes a horse like Sweet Lou produce so many good filly offspring but not so much on the colt side..is It a luck of the draw or is there really a factor here.

[RANDOLPH POKER]

8 of his 10 richest, and 9 of his 10 fastest, are males.

He does seem to have a bunch of good fillies this year....but some decent colts too.

6 $100K winning 2YOs this year - 3 males

He does have a Horse of the Year and a few Jug Winners....not too shabby...



http://stars.ustrotting.com/stallion.cfm?stallion_id=773





Stallion | Sire of the Stallion | Dam of the Stallion | Crosses of Gold | Yearling Sales Results | Hypothetical Matings
Top Performers: Current Year | Prior Year | All Time
SWEET LOU
P, 2,1:49.0s; 3,1:47.4s; 5,1:47.0f ($ 3,478,894)
Bay Horse.   Foaled 2009.
SWEET LOU's All Time Leading Foals by Earnings   To purchase the complete Pathway report, click here
Foal Name   Foal
Year   Sex   Record   Life-to-Date
Earnings   Dam   Last
Raced
CONFEDERATE   2020   H   P, 3 1:46.1m   $2,077,554   GEOTHERMAL   *2023
WARRAWEE UBEAUT   2016   M   P, 2 1:48.3m   $1,849,213   GREAT MEMORIES   2021
IT'S MY SHOW   2020   G   P, 3 1:46.4m   $1,506,502   PUT ON A SHOW   2024
HELLABALOU   2018   H   P, 6 1:48.3f   $1,474,071   MAGESTIC BLUE CHIP   2024
LOU'S PEARLMAN   2018   H   P, 3 1:47.4m   $1,262,271   LUCY'S PEARL   2023
MY GIRL EJ   2021   M   P, 3 1:48.1m   $1,131,560   LUCY'S PEARL   2024
FOUREVER BOY   2019   H   P, 4 1:48.2f   $1,039,442   MACHAROUNDTHECLOC K   2024
SPIRIT OF STLOUIS N   2016   G   P, 8 Q1:52.1m   $1,012,857   SPIRIT OF ART   2024
DANCIN LOU   2016   H   P, 4 1:47.2m   $991,441   DANCEWITHTHEBEST   2020
NO LOU ZING   2017   G   P, 5 1:49.0s   $931,532   TERRORONTHEBEACH   2024

SWEET LOU's All Time Leading Foals by Record   To purchase the complete Pathway report, click here
Foal Name   Foal
Year   Sex   Record   Life-to-Date
Earnings   Dam   Last
Raced
CONFEDERATE   2020   H   P, 3 1:46.1m   $2,077,554   GEOTHERMAL   *2023
IT'S MY SHOW   2020   G   P, 3 1:46.4m   $1,506,502   PUT ON A SHOW   2024
DANCIN LOU   2016   H   P, 4 1:47.2m   $991,441   DANCEWITHTHEBEST   2020
FORTIFY   2017   G   P, 3 1:47.3s   $793,401   CAN'T STOP ME NOW   2024
LOU'S PEARLMAN   2018   H   P, 3 1:47.4m   $1,262,271   LUCY'S PEARL   2023
ADMIRAL HILL   2020   G   P, 4 1:48.0f   $550,778   LAURA HILL   2024
CRIMSON AND CHROME   2016   G   P, 4 1:48.0m   $317,240   MCSAUNA   2022
OAKWOOD ARDAN IR   2019   G   P, 5 1:48.0m   $217,427   TREND SETTER   2024
MY GIRL EJ   2021   M   P, 3 1:48.1m   $1,131,560   LUCY'S PEARL   2024
CANNIBAL   2020   H   P, 3 1:48.1m   $785,040   NO MORE LOSSES   *2023

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Last year his colts averaged $74,000 and fillies averaged $79,000

[SDST2009]

Irrespective of Sweet Lou (since he actually seems to be a pretty even producer) there definitely are some sires who way overproduce colts versus fillies, or vice versa. A long time ago I had heard that sires with strong female lines would produce better filiies than colts, but I can't say that always seems true.

Maybe someone smarter than I can weigh in.

[chester]

Sweet lou being by Yankee cruiser is a huge out cross

[Call Sign Merlin]

I know that people way smarter than me will disagree - but I think it all is a crapshoot especially because most breeders don’t employ a genetic PhD

[rainman2]

Irrespective of Sweet Lou (since he actually seems to be a pretty even producer) there definitely are some sires who way overproduce colts versus fillies, or vice versa. A long time ago I had heard that sires with strong female lines would produce better filiies than colts, but I can't say that always seems true.

Maybe someone smarter than I can weigh in.

Wind the clock back many years.  Big Towner was a great outcross.  People openly laughed at Simpson Sr. when he did this.  Big Towner produced better on the mares side.  Big Towner protege were more physically sound, lasted longer on the track and had better racing mentality (had a desire to try harder in races)!

[Call Sign Merlin]

Said this in another thread but the trotting side could really use an outcross.    Vast majority of commercial sires are Chapter Seven or Muscle Hill. 

[Chips N Salsa]

Lou has good maternal breeding.  Sweet Future has Falcon Seelster blood which is pure speed.  On the top side you have artplace and abercrombie which throw a very durable and rugged type horse.  You combine that with maternal speed and you get a horse like lou and now he's passing it along to his foals.  his first couple of crops didn't hit well but now with the better mares and finding out what type of blood he needs they have become great.

I think he will dominate for some time.  I don't think confederate will make a stud compared the price and hype.  TDS is toast and will get exported before long.  You basically have what's left of Papi Rob who is highly under rated, Captain, Lou and Down By the Seaside.

[Artsplace1990]

I'm curious to see hom Cummasumladdea oes here in Ohio

[Call Sign Merlin]

I'm curious to see hom Cummasumladdea oes here in Ohio

Being at Midland will help but lots of competition for mares - Downbytheseaside, Racing Hill, Catch the Fire, Lou’s Pearlman, Monte Miki, Rockyroad Hanover, Pebble Beach. Ohio is just so overbred

[rainman2]

Being at Midland will help but lots of competition for mares - Downbytheseaside, Racing Hill, Catch the Fire, Lou’s Pearlman, Monte Miki, Rockyroad Hanover, Pebble Beach. Ohio is just so overbred

What about Indiana while we are on the subject?  Not as many 'studly' choices where I believe we see low/mid-level claimers which I believe are Indiana bred only! 

[Chips N Salsa]

What about Indiana while we are on the subject?  Not as many 'studly' choices where I believe we see low/mid-level claimers which I believe are Indiana bred only!

Indiana is worst state in the world financially to stand a stud - Bar None

[rainman2]

Indiana is worst state in the world financially to stand a stud - Bar None

are there any good 'studs' there?

[Lance]

are there any good 'studs' there?

There are at least two.