CRIME FAMILY

[Any1Left]

Racing tries to rid itself of the BANCAS AND ALLARDS but getting rid of the mafia hit men mean nothing with the mob bosses still in place and as long as we have crooked management and judges and the USTA  making decisions the race track crime family with crooked drivers and trainers getting away with everything,,,,,,,,Judges ARE CROOKED COPS WHO NEVER CORRECT WRONGS and management wants betting dollars into the pools and dont give a lying F,,,k how the moneys gets into the pools and the stooges that work the pre game shows for racetracks that believe that millions are watching,,,,,,,,,,IT is time to rid the crime family and get rid of the hit men and stooges,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[ferdinand the bull]

I was told that Allard's biggest boost in racing was a motorcycle gang called the Devils Disciples of Quebec Canada that made a deal with Allard to put up the money for him to buy and race horses. Allard would use the dirty gang money and wash it with horse purchases.  I didn't hear specifics and this could possibly be completely fabricated but the timeline adds up. After Allard was indicted the gang then employed Allard's good friend that French Canadian driver Roy. Rumor has it the gang was not happy with Simon's pedophilia behavior and wanted to separate from him. This is all hearsay , I'm sure plopsters will know more or have their own thoughts

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I was told that Allard's biggest boost in racing was a motorcycle gang called the Devils Disciples of Quebec Canada that made a deal with Allard to put up the money for him to buy and race horses. Allard would use the dirty gang money and wash it with horse purchases.  I didn't hear specifics and this could possibly be completely fabricated but the timeline adds up. After Allard was indicted the gang then employed Allard's good friend that French Canadian driver Roy. Rumor has it the gang was not happy with Simon's pedophilia behavior and wanted to separate from him. This is all hearsay , I'm sure plopsters will know more or have their own thoughts

I am 1000% sure many here (and elsewhere) will have their own rumors, innuendo, conspiracy theories, fabrications, lies, and more. It's not that it one or more of them may or may not be true. It's simply that nobody here really knows.

[Scooteroo]

There are way too many rumors and innuendos posted on here about drugs, who's using them and so on, but I find it hard to believe most people really know, it's more of an assumption on their part, none of which would hold up in court.

[ferdinand the bull]

There are way too many rumors and innuendos posted on here about drugs, who's using them and so on, but I find it hard to believe most people really know, it's more of an assumption on their part, none of which would hold up in court.

The indictments proved a lot of the rumors were factual

[Grandstand Handicapper]

There are way too many rumors and innuendos posted on here about drugs, who's using them and so on, but I find it hard to believe most people really know, it's more of an assumption on their part.

Agreed. I've been in this business long enough to recognize and know, and a lot of it is unfortunate-----there is the front side and the back side. There are people who are actually in this business, participate in this business, are active in this business, etc., and there are people who aren't, are ancillarily involved, connected, or want to be, or they know somebody who is more involved than they are, and more along these lines. It delineates insiders and outsiders. It is there that the BS begins, LOL.

Me, I don't post anything other than my own personal opinion, and it's about horses, races, handicapping, the sport, the industry, etc.-----not anything about people or something that I have to be qualified to speak to. That way, I can enjoy myself! LOL.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

The indictments proved a lot of the rumors were factual

About the drugs? Absolutely!!! Without question!!! And there's more obviously. The other stuff is all rumor, innuendo, and the rest of the stuff I listed. LOL.

[Scooteroo]

I believe some people just like stirring the pot, and some people are deemed guilty by association whether it's true or not. When I'm wagering, I don't consider who may or may not be juicing.

[ferdinand the bull]

About the drugs? Absolutely!!! Without question!!! And there's more obviously. The other stuff is all rumor, innuendo, and the rest of the stuff I listed. LOL.

Is it fair to conclude the corruption does run deep through administration and beyond? Cassie and her puppets , Ford and his crew as well as the notorious Fishman lists go about status quo

[simplify]

There are way too many rumors and innuendos posted on here about drugs, who's using them and so on, but I find it hard to believe most people really know, it's more of an assumption on their part, none of which would hold up in court.

What? Are you serious. Way way way more people are using drugs on horses and not just getting caught.

[Scooteroo]

Show me your proof? You can't, because they haven't been caught! It's probably true, but unless they're caught you have no factual evidence to back it up.

[Any1Left]

Show me your proof? You can't, because they haven't been caught! It's probably true, but unless they're caught you have no factual evidence to back it up.

I guess it is the same in the WWE as most guys using roids test clean and i need proof that these giants are using drugs,,,,,,,

[Scooteroo]

Everybody knows the WWE guys are using steroids even though there's no proof. As far as horse trainers, innocent until proven guilty. If OJ was found not guilty of murder, anyone can be found not guilty. Not guilty doesn't mean you're innocent just that you had a good lawyer and a bad prosecutor and dumb jury.

[simplify]

Show me your proof? You can't, because they haven't been caught! It's probably true, but unless they're caught you have no factual evidence to back it up.

Wow. I give up. Some people just don't get it

[Scooteroo]

Believe me, I get it, but you still have no proof regarding the trainers who have never been caught! Suspicion doesn't equal guilt except for people like you who thinks everyone cheats.