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I could only speak from what I’ve experienced, but I’ve had a lot of horses never piss in the spit box and sometimes the paddock. Lasix or not. The people working the spit box typically want you right into the stall as soon as you are done bathing and sometimes don’t give too much time to cool the horse off. Everyone seems to have their own method of cooling out whether be walking or nothing. Horse doesn’t piss in certain time they just pull blood. They have other races to work and can’t become backed up.Aside that, some horses piss right away, lasix or not.
I guess the question is - if it clears the system through urine, is it effective as a therapeutic/performance enhancer? I am legitimately asking; I don't know the processes of drugs in a horse's system.
Have you taken into consideration that a good amount of horses don’t end up pissing in the spit box ?
The main reason Lasix is used is to eliminate evidence. For example..Take 2 horses..1 on Lasix and 1 not. Give both a 10cc shot of Bute 24 hours before race. After 12 hours, the Bute leaves the blood and collects in the bladder for elimination. The horse given Lasix eliminates the Bute by urinating unnaturally gallons and gallons of liquid while the non lasix horse doesn't. After race when urine is tested on both these horses, the odds of Bute in the sample of Lasix horse is minute while the non lasix sample is questionable. That is why all trainers get their horse on the Lasix list. They can now give drugs closer than the non Lasix horse leading up to a race. Does it make a difference? Apparently many believe it does.
so basically the same shit I said just in your own words to make you feel important and not having to agree with me dummy
No dummy, you said Lasix covers up other drugs. It may but I don't know if it does. I said Lasix eliminates the remains of other drugs because of the speeding up the urination process.
so cute ain't a drug wow thank you for teaching me something today
I try to dumb myself down to your level and understand what you post but I refuse to eat paint chips.
well you better eat them chips it's the only thing you can probably afford do I need to speak s. L. O. W. E. R f. O. R. Y. O. U what part of what I said is to hard for your pea brain to figure out
No dummy, you said Lasix covers up other drugs. It may but I don't know if it does. I said Lasix eliminates the remains of other drugs because of the speeding up the urination process.[/quoteLasix doesn’t cover up anything,First it targets the Loop of Henie, on drugs that have a permissible level , Bute , Banimine so one it can temporarily lower the level in the urine concentration to under the level, but on drugs that have no permissible level , narcotics, smooth muscle relaxers so on,it will lower the concentration but but they are still detectable. That’s why you see this positive for pictograms and the trainers blaming everything from personal voiding in stall to lab contamination. If you do some research, like I have done was my former field , these positive with all the nefarious drugs, exp gabapentin in Ohio all the horse were on wait for it Lasix.The reverse effect of Lasix and it’s the only one is Sodium Bicarbonate, when the backstretch chemist like L. Zembinsky get these sky high readings on a high Bicarbonate it’s from the Lasix because Lasix lowers the circulating water but the bicarbonate level is not affected because the molecular weight. So there defense is I would have had to give 2 lbs to get a reading that high. No just 8oz pull the water 2-4 hrs before horse gets Lasix and you have the potential to get a sky high reading. Again that’s why HISA is so need. Our current system across the country is broken.
Quote from: MIKE CAMPBELL on July 07, 2024, 01:56:37 AMNo dummy, you said Lasix covers up other drugs. It may but I don't know if it does. I said Lasix eliminates the remains of other drugs because of the speeding up the urination process.[/quoteLasix doesn’t cover up anything,First it targets the Loop of Henie, on drugs that have a permissible level , Bute , Banimine so one it can temporarily lower the level in the urine concentration to under the level, but on drugs that have no permissible level , narcotics, smooth muscle relaxers so on,it will lower the concentration but but they are still detectable. That’s why you see this positive for pictograms and the trainers blaming everything from personal voiding in stall to lab contamination. If you do some research, like I have done was my former field , these positive with all the nefarious drugs, exp gabapentin in Ohio all the horse were on wait for it Lasix.The reverse effect of Lasix and it’s the only one is Sodium Bicarbonate, when the backstretch chemist like L. Zembinsky get these sky high readings on a high Bicarbonate it’s from the Lasix because Lasix lowers the circulating water but the bicarbonate level is not affected because the molecular weight. So there defense is I would have had to give 2 lbs to get a reading that high. No just 8oz pull the water 2-4 hrs before horse gets Lasix and you have the potential to get a sky high reading. Again that’s why HISA is so need. Our current system across the country is broken.The reading comprehension here is amazingly poor. Firstly, I never said Lasix covers up any drug. I posted that a Lasix infused horse eliminates the remains of some drugs quicker than a horse not on Lasix. Secondly, I never posted that Lasix eliminates the remains of ALL drugs.
Hey dick Campbell how is my knowledge of horses bad lasix helps hide drugs better you can give more soda amongst other things those are facts dummy ten year old grandson knows that so go back to choking on them dicks
