Legendary Hanover will not be close in NA CUP

[Chips N Salsa]

Nice horse but not a great horse.  Take him to Sire Stakes.  He doesn't have the tools to win the big ones.

[Harness Stats]

You try making up ground in a 53.2 last half off weak cover. I doubt if he's eligible to NYSS, he's never been off of a big track in his life. He'll be fine.

[ferdinand the bull]

If he doesn't get another mopey drive he will be fine

[Chips N Salsa]

Driver is also a TOOL to win.  James o Mac is not a stake driver.  With him and the fact the horse can't leave he won't be a player.

[LUCPARK]

Horse has to start leaving a little

Can’t give up thst much ground alwsys

[Chips N Salsa]

Horse has to start leaving a little

Can’t give up thst much ground alwsys

The horse CAN'T leave and Cassie hasn't trained him to leave.  He will always be a victim of pace and if they walk the dog to half or 3/4 he has no shot against good horses.

[Par Four]

Driver is also a TOOL to win.  James o Mac is not a stake driver.  With him and the fact the horse can't leave he won't be a player.

Even his brother says he drives too conservative at times

[Chips N Salsa]

That may be but I haven't seen to many Huntsville big lopey gaited rats that can leave the gate with the steam it takes in big one.  Now, if James tries to smoke with wings everyone will look over and hang him for life because he gets no respect.  The horse has no respect and is easily beaten against the top dogs.

[No passing lane 4U]

You try making up ground in a 53.2 last half off weak cover. I doubt if he's eligible to NYSS, he's never been off of a big track in his life. He'll be fine.

bullshirt he is a beast

[SDST2009]

The horse CAN'T leave and Cassie hasn't trained him to leave.  He will always be a victim of pace and if they walk the dog to half or 3/4 he has no shot against good horses.

Some of them can't leave. If the horse only has one good move in him, doesn't matter how you train him, that's how it is. He will pick up checks if he can rocket home. But the real good ones have more than one move in them. Maybe be doesn't.

[whiptherabbit]

Big money wasn’t on the line , he was fine, came a big back half to garner the deuce, will be driven more aggressively in the elims & final.

[Chips N Salsa]

Some of them can't leave. If the horse only has one good move in him, doesn't matter how you train him, that's how it is. He will pick up checks if he can rocket home. But the real good ones have more than one move in them. Maybe be doesn't.

I agree 100% with that.  He showed the weakness last yr not being able to get into good spot.  coming a big back half only means you walked the first half and didn't get yourself into position.  It's just a way to make the owners feel good "he came back half in 53- so he's a gorilla! LOL problem is he went his first half in 57-  Don't mean jack squat when the race goes 49.3 and your no where close at the half.

[Laag]

most real races for big money will not be going to the half that slow so I dont see what the issue is.

[Papillon]

i found it humorous in the interview later that Beaton said he was thrilled with the effort

he was a given a no win drive at 1-9 and the trainer was thrilled

[SDST2009]

I agree 100% with that.  He showed the weakness last yr not being able to get into good spot.  coming a big back half only means you walked the first half and didn't get yourself into position.  It's just a way to make the owners feel good "he came back half in 53- so he's a gorilla! LOL problem is he went his first half in 57-  Don't mean jack squat when the race goes 49.3 and your no where close at the half.

Spot on, sir