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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2023, 02:23:35 PM »
     Any of the geniuses on here wonder why New York Pennsylvania Delaware Maryland  Indiana have no problem with Howard Taylor ?   Because Gural has zero credibility with them , that’s why.   

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #61 on: December 13, 2023, 02:31:04 PM »
Not sure it's that...but they won't do anything to possibly cause the entry box not to be full and risk losing some of their state handouts!   tmbz1

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2023, 02:43:12 PM »
     Any of the geniuses on here wonder why New York Pennsylvania Delaware Maryland  Indiana have no problem with Howard Taylor ?   Because Gural has zero credibility with them , that’s why.

Damian williams, the states attorney for the southern district in NY, prepared the list of individuals who purchased epo from Fishman. The judge is the one who sentenced Fishman and his lackey based on this evidence. How could any state reasonably not have an issue with someone on the list based on the facts? Gurals actions have nothing to do with what each state decides

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #63 on: December 13, 2023, 04:17:12 PM »
     Any of the geniuses on here wonder why New York Pennsylvania Delaware Maryland  Indiana have no problem with Howard Taylor ?   Because Gural has zero credibility with them , that’s why.

Delaware and Maryland have always been a safe haven for cheaters! Look at who's racing there and have had multiple offenses!

They're not going to do anything that might jeopardize their overpaid salaries! Just look away and it'll go away.
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #64 on: December 13, 2023, 04:24:04 PM »
Exactly Mike--you know.---Howard is claiming Gural is lying?--however I just read that Taylor had 4 different accounts with Fishman-one was in his dead (RIP) wifes name.  Fishman was selling just about everything I was told--from supplements to relabeled, non FDA approved injectables-to designer drugs and Class 1 injectables he had no business selling to trainers whatsoever-which is why he got the most severe penalty of all and millions in fines.Not a reputable person to be dealing with and Taylor must have known something about all the medications- he is no idiot. Fishman was a real POS of the worst greedy kind. Honest people and all the horses are better off with him behind bars. Makes you wonder--why would Taylor have 4 different accounts with someone(vet) who does not look after any of his horses??
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #65 on: December 13, 2023, 04:26:19 PM »
Howard Taylor is a douche bag, cheat, and an all around dirt bag.  Are these defaming statements, or just the facts. YOU decide.  Fact is he's on the list because it was determined by the investigation. Gural just published the list in conformity of his banning these individuals. It doesnt matter if Howard Taylor stuck EPO up his ass he bought an illegal substance, that he, as legal counsel to many trainers that have endured the same charge he is now facing.  Is this stupidity, or brazen acts of untouchability?  Time will tell.  But he has a long fight ahead, and Gural needs to stay the course and make this an example if one needs to be made.
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2023, 05:44:33 PM »
Remember the last time Taylor tried to sue Gural/New Meadowlands over a stake race they cancelled that Taylor had the favorite. Taylor filed the suit to force the race to be run using the court’s as his bully pulpit and dropped the suit and took his stakes payment refund and put it towards buying more horses. Taylor and his attorney will be up against a top flight law firm and my belief is he will drop the suit. Greed and power have overtaken his legal judgement.

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2023, 05:54:41 PM »
Your all going to be sued for defecation, i mean, deprivation, i mean defamation!

Something like that. I heard it from a good sauce.

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2023, 06:18:54 PM »
Exactly!     Now let’s see Gural prove what he says happened
GURAL DOESNT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING. HOWARD TAYLOR HAS TO PROVE THAT HE WAS DEFAMED AND WHAT HIS DAMAGES ARE. ALL GURAL HAS TO DO IS SHOW UP IN COURT
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #69 on: December 13, 2023, 06:20:22 PM »
Remember the last time Taylor tried to sue Gural/New Meadowlands over a stake race they cancelled that Taylor had the favorite. Taylor filed the suit to force the race to be run using the court’s as his bully pulpit and dropped the suit and took his stakes payment refund and put it towards buying more horses. Taylor and his attorney will be up against a top flight law firm and my belief is he will drop the suit. Greed and power have overtaken his legal judgement.

Taylor just signed his fate of racing ever again at the Meadowlands.
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #70 on: December 13, 2023, 06:27:49 PM »
Taylor just signed his fate of racing ever again at the Meadowlands.
ABSOLUTELY. AT LEAST UNLESS GURAL SELLS IT OR SOMEONE ELSE TAKES OVER. DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH ON THE LATTER.
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #71 on: December 13, 2023, 06:37:16 PM »
 I'm sure he figures that to be the case. Apparently he finds racing at the Meadowlands expendable, inconsequential. Just further  proof what an intelligent [however crooked] guy he is.

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #72 on: December 13, 2023, 07:17:35 PM »
I'm sure he figures that to be the case. Apparently he finds racing at the Meadowlands expendable, inconsequential. Just further  proof what an intelligent [however crooked] guy he is.
INTELLIGENT? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING? THE GUY IS A MORON IF HE WAS PAYING FOR EPO UNDER HIS OWN NAME. THAT SAYS IT ALL ABOUT HIS INTELLIGENCE.
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #73 on: December 13, 2023, 07:25:29 PM »
 Sure seems like I see his name in the program an awful lot. Let me walk it back as you make a valid point. [why I added the crooked part before]. Call it harness racing intelligent then.

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #74 on: December 13, 2023, 07:31:57 PM »
How stupid is he?  In his own lawsuit he says - 34. In any event, BB3 is not EPO. It is a mimetic peptide that is structurally
distinguishable from EPO

So you had Fishman create EPO in a peptide that mimics EPO but won't test.  Sounds like making and using a PED so as to not be detected.

 

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