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Fuguzzi

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« on: September 18, 2023, 09:34:06 AM »
Just got off the phone with a horseman friend of mine. He says that at YR, without slots, if the purses were generated solely by handle, they would be identical to or possibly worse than Monti's. Can this be true? I guess when you think about it, it must be

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2023, 09:43:46 AM »
He is accurate.  MGM will do everything they can to eliminate horse racing at YR in the next five yrs.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2023, 09:46:21 AM »
He is accurate.  MGM will do everything they can to eliminate horse racing at YR in the next five yrs.
My friend says it might be much sooner.

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2023, 10:00:06 AM »
My friend says it might be much sooner.

That Oval is far too mor valuable with slots and parking than horses going around it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2023, 10:06:19 AM »
Can anyone with true knowledge explain why you need to apply to race there, that entries are not accepted by trainers with clean records and they continually go with very very small fields.

Small fields lead to boring racing and loss of handle.

There can be only 2 reasons

Do they want the people that are racing there to get more of the money?

Do they want to show a failing business?

The urine smell in the paddock can be added to the list. How is this accepted?




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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2023, 10:17:50 AM »
Can anyone with true knowledge explain why you need to apply to race there, that entries are not accepted by trainers with clean records and they continually go with very very small fields.

Small fields lead to boring racing and loss of handle.

There can be only 2 reasons

Do they want the people that are racing there to get more of the money?

Do they want to show a failing business?

The urine smell in the paddock can be added to the list. How is this



 accepted?




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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2023, 10:30:13 AM »
MGM like any other business is all about a profit margin. The horses and Horseman are nothing but a deficit. I’m told they’re working on eliminating harness racing and making it a separate entity to support itself.

MGM has a lot of power and we all know how corrupt the New York liberal politicians are. $$$$$

I don’t think the purses would be as bad as Monticello. It would probably go back to the way they were. They still have revenue streams.

Name me one race track or race secretary that actually treats horseman with respect! 

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2023, 10:50:39 AM »
Name me one race track or race secretary that actually treats horseman with respect!
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2023, 11:46:14 AM »
Name me one race track or race secretary that actually treats horseman with respect!
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Fuguzzi

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2023, 12:40:02 PM »
Can anyone with true knowledge explain why you need to apply to race there, that entries are not accepted by trainers with clean records and they continually go with very very small fields.

Small fields lead to boring racing and loss of handle.

There can be only 2 reasons

Do they want the people that are racing there to get more of the money?

Do they want to show a failing business?

The urine smell in the paddock can be added to the list. How is this accepted?
I truly believe they want to show a failing business. Same formula that was part of the swindle that led to the demise of Roosevelt which i witnessed first hand.

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2023, 01:04:24 PM »
« Last Edit: September 18, 2023, 01:16:56 PM by The Thorn »

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2023, 01:09:05 PM »
You can thank Aex Doydan for the demise of Yonkers. 

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2023, 03:18:26 PM »
This swindle and demise?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHpKs2W7kIY
Yes, I would think you of all people who have great recall would remember what went on there between businessman and politicians.

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2023, 04:18:34 PM »
Those notorious 6 they called those politicians that drilled Rosevelt into ground.
The backroom deals money under tables and all that bs that was done to get that land.

Kicker is it must kill them that the track was still standing in 98-99 until they finally knocked it down for an over 55 community.
right before the casino bs was passed in ny 100's of millions they lost out with that..

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2023, 06:09:31 PM »
Yes, I would think you of all people who have great recall would remember what went on there between businessman and politicians.

D’Amato , Hopkins etc

 

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