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Betty Clegg
« on: September 18, 2023, 08:25:35 AM »
 I'm not sure who this trainer is but I don't think i've ever seen a trainer that likes to race two year old's as much as she does.  Don't often see people race 2 yr old 3 and 4 times a week. Good on them if its works.

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2023, 08:48:32 AM »
I'm not sure who this trainer is but I don't think i've ever seen a trainer that likes to race two year old's as much as she does.  Don't often see people race 2 yr old 3 and 4 times a week. Good on them if its works.
Long time ago there was an old man in Ny who would race his 2 year olds 25 times or MORE and his 3 year olds 40 times on the NYS fair circuits and Monti and Vernon. Once saw him take a horse off the track after racing, remove the bike, loosen the girth and put the horse directly on a trailer. This was at a fair upstate. After checking the results from each track as I always did, I saw the same horse raced at Monti later that evening. Old timers will remember Ralph wore brownish colors with an orange road sign on the back in the triangle shape of a yield sign. Think he had a son named mike. He was ultimately barred from the business for holding back his crop of yearlings with the assistance of a crooked vet. That's how he raced his babies so much. His "2 year olds" were actually 3 and so on

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2023, 10:18:33 AM »
Hard work

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2023, 10:25:55 AM »
They have 11 2 year olds and 3 year olds racing today at the Ashland fair.

9 2 year olds including 5 who have 19+ starts
2 3 year olds and they have 27 and 36 starts this year.

« Last Edit: September 18, 2023, 10:29:47 AM by HarnessFan1981 »

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2023, 12:41:53 PM »
They have 11 2 year olds and 3 year olds racing today at the Ashland fair.

9 2 year olds including 5 who have 19+ starts
2 3 year olds and they have 27 and 36 starts this year.
They are fudging the year of foaling just like Ralph Sherman.

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2023, 12:42:21 PM »
Ralph Sherman...died in a plane crash with him flying it in the mountains of colorado. found him buried in the plane years later.

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2023, 12:44:03 PM »
Ralph Sherman...died in a plane crash with him flying it in the mountains of colorado. found him buried in the plane years later.
Unaware of that  Bizarre   Do you remember him firsthand and what i am talking about?

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2023, 12:46:23 PM »
Yes,used to fudge the breeding dates. I knew Ralph. He was a retired schoolteacher and flew his own plane. He and his wife crashed in the mountains and were found years later.

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2023, 12:47:27 PM »
Looks like someone has gone to the Blutarsky school of posting!
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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2023, 02:33:07 PM »
Ralph Sherman...died in a plane crash with him flying it in the mountains of colorado. found him buried in the plane years later.

Ralph and his wife Estelle were good peeps...nobody's perfect...Crashed his plane in November of 99 in Colorado mountains...They tried to repair their emergency locater beacon and died of exposure,,,some hikers found the plane and their bodies in July of 2000...

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2023, 02:36:01 PM »
Long time ago there was an old man in Ny who would race his 2 year olds 25 times or MORE and his 3 year olds 40 times on the NYS fair circuits and Monti and Vernon. Once saw him take a horse off the track after racing, remove the bike, loosen the girth and put the horse directly on a trailer. This was at a fair upstate. After checking the results from each track as I always did, I saw the same horse raced at Monti later that evening. Old timers will remember Ralph wore brownish colors with an orange road sign on the back in the triangle shape of a yield sign. Think he had a son named mike. He was ultimately barred from the business for holding back his crop of yearlings with the assistance of a crooked vet. That's how he raced his babies so much. His "2 year olds" were actually 3 and so on
That was Ralph Sherman old school horseman. Him and his family are good people.. His son is a blacksmith

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2023, 03:13:17 PM »
You guys dont believe this? Are you serious? I don't make stuff up and many of you compliment my posts. I know for a fact that he held back his babies to race horses vs those a year younger and he STOLE thousands that way and was tossed from the business. i only brought this up because of the Betty Clegg thing and the possible similarity. How else do 2 year olds start racing early April and race 30 times with out coming completely apart. he and his wife may be wonderful people off track and he may have died tragically, but he did what he did.

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2023, 03:21:11 PM »
Yes,used to fudge the breeding dates. I knew Ralph. He was a retired schoolteacher and flew his own plane. He and his wife crashed in the mountains and were found years later.
Thank you for the confirmation Tumbleweed. I dont like when some people call me a liar.

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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2023, 03:49:28 PM »
BETTY AND NICK CLEGG = ALLARD FROM THE PRISON CELL. THEY CHANGE THE DATES ON ALL OF THE THREE YEAR OLD HORSES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE 2 YEARS OLD.
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Re: Betty Clegg
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2023, 03:54:09 PM »
You guys dont believe this? Are you serious? I don't make stuff up and many of you compliment my posts. I know for a fact that he held back his babies to race horses vs those a year younger and he STOLE thousands that way and was tossed from the business. i only brought this up because of the Betty Clegg thing and the possible similarity. How else do 2 year olds start racing early April and race 30 times with out coming completely apart. he and his wife may be wonderful people off track and he may have died tragically, but he did what he did.
fuguzzi, as far as people go they’re really nice people to me, but I know exactly what you mean with the horses he was like a German staff Sergeant with the horses. 
Great guy, but I wouldn’t give him a fucking mule to train.

 

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