Is this feasible??

[Gaagoots]

The ship in and detention barns are a joke. Guard leaves let the pre racing begin.

Some of the guards walk around they have no idea a muscle shot take no time. I've actually seen a guy tube one at the Meadowlands detention barn.

[The Exporter]

What would a same day or even a 24 hour detention barn accomplish? It would only make the real chemists more money.

[Fuguzzi]

Interesting...

[Generation XYZ]

Dont even get me started...It has always pissed me off that owners and drivers get off scott free while trainers bear the brunt only.  I once stood 2 feet from George Brennan and heard him tell an owner about Lou Pena, "If they ever find out what he's using, I'm all done"

What about Napolitano driving all those Oakes gassed up rockets right off the screen at Pocono. As if he doesn't know......

You have to remember a lot, if not the vast majority of owners are truly unaware of what the trainer is enhancing their horse with.  So really it is a trainer, vet. issue.  Owners simply get the bills at the end of the month.

[Meadow Ford]

IMHO!
Spend more time on pre and post race testing.
Pre race draw blood on every horse every race.
Pre race blood gas every horse every race.
Triple and/or quadruple fines and days.
Suspend horse 60 days and must requalify.

Just asking/I don't know.
If you draw blood prerace on every horse, would you still have to draw blood post race on the winner?

How many remember when going to the spit box really ment the horse's spit?

[old guy]

IMHO!
Spend more time on pre and post race testing.
Pre race draw blood on every horse every race.
Pre race blood gas every horse every race.
Triple and/or quadruple fines and days.
Suspend horse 60 days and must requalify.

Just asking/I
If you draw blood prerace on every horse, would you still have to draw blood post race on the winner?

How many remember when going to the spit box really ment the horse's spit?

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Spit swabs in the tray.

[White Rabbit]

No race tracks want the expense of a retention barns so that kind of puts kink in that. I know all the racetracks say they want go clean racing, under their breath they say as long as it doesn’t cost them any money. We need to realize that once they get slots there out of the racing business, just the horsemen are in it. But I have often thought, it’s not a fool proof ideal , what it in order to race at a given track you had to have cameras that monitor every horse & that our online 24-7 & every track  & racing commission , you race at has access to them around the clock. Should there be a stop in the feed the all horse scratched that are enter. I know horsemen will always try and find a way around the cameras , like most have with the testing, but one thing you can count on from horsemen is complacency over time , like at Hoosier where people still treated horse with cameras rolling. Another caveat is to offer a purse bonus, say 10% if you have cameras and give the tracks and commission 24-7 access with no stoppage of feed.

[Stan durbread]

You have to remember a lot, if not the vast majority of owners are truly unaware of what the trainer is enhancing their horse with.  So really it is a trainer, vet. issue.  Owners simply get the bills at the end of the month.

The vast majority of owners that use those trainers may not know the exact name of there drugs gut they know the trainers are using them

[Generation XYZ]

The vast majority of owners that use those trainers may not know the exact name of there drugs gut they know the trainers are using them

Yes, and No, I think if its a breeder, with a training stable possibly yes, (Definitely in the case of an NY breeder, that used Oakes, Surick, Navarro and Servus, who will remain unnamed). But casual owners most likely not.

[Stan durbread]

Yes, and No, I think if its a breeder, with a training stable possibly yes, (Definitely in the case of an NY breeder, that used Oakes, Surick, Navarro and Servus, who will remain unnamed). But casual owners most likely not.

Look at who the owners From all the convicted trainers are employing these days. Hunter Oaks. Yea they got no clues. Lol