Dexter Dunn Ari Ferrari

[Senator Blutarsky]

A perfect example of classic young trotters being raced to learn. Is it right from a parimutuel standpoint? When complete fucking idiots come  on here screaming without a clue how the game works it is hilarious. Been happening for decades with different fools crying the blues.

Like I said as well, what makes us laugh, and kicking a bro in the balls while he made a BOSS decision, not technically a mistake - is definitely mutually exclusive (at times)...at this moment I will get out of the way of the incoming lynch mob coming for ya. 

Good luck Bro, it will be on your proverbial gravestone, he made us laugh was often right & was "murdered" for the same!

[Brown jug]

all good points, not sure anyone is wrong
of course  the easy answer is don't bet those types of races, fair enough
but isn't that an issue if the sport  currently is or is trying to survive based on wagering

[getreal]

If he wasnt going to try "again", qualify the horse. Not fair to the betting public. Say what you want

[Senator Blutarsky]

If he wasnt going to try "again", qualify the horse. Not fair to the betting public. Say what you want

Compared to qualifiers they almost try in live racing opposed to the former!   

[kooter for hipin]

They need to have a note in the program then, that says...."Just racing to educate!"

 

ABSOLUTELY!                     Great post, at least in my mind.       

[LAW AND ORDER]

AS A BETTOR, I AGREE WITH THE POSTER WHO SAID JUST PUT THEM IN A QUALIFER SO NOBOY GETS BURNED.  MAYBE RUN THE QUALIFIER AT NIGHT TO GIVE THE HORSE SOME EXPERIENCE UNDER THE LIGHTS AND THE FEEL OF A FEW FANS IN THE STANDS. OR MAYBE THEY CAN EVEN RUN A FEW RACES AT NIGHT WITH SMALL PURSES THAT ARE NON BETTING FOR OWNERS JUST WANTING TO EDUCATE THEIR HORSES.  BUT YOU CANT DO WHAT DEXTER DID IN THIS RACE AND ASSUME THAT BETTORS SHOULD KNOW THAT HE ISNT TRYING TO WIN.  THATS JUST NOT RIGHT IN MY BOOK.

[Senator Blutarsky]

AS A BETTOR, I AGREE WITH THE POSTER WHO SAID JUST PUT THEM IN A QUALIFER SO NOBOY GETS BURNED.  MAYBE RUN THE QUALIFIER AT NIGHT TO GIVE THE HORSE SOME EXPERIENCE UNDER THE LIGHTS AND THE FEEL OF A FEW FANS IN THE STANDS. OR MAYBE THEY CAN EVEN RUN A FEW RACES AT NIGHT WITH SMALL PURSES THAT ARE NON BETTING FOR OWNERS JUST WANTING TO EDUCATE THEIR HORSES.  BUT YOU CANT DO WHAT DEXTER DID IN THIS RACE AND ASSUME THAT BETTORS SHOULD KNOW THAT HE ISNT TRYING TO WIN.  THATS JUST NOT RIGHT IN MY BOOK.

Bettors have a voice and a choice.  There is a lot to that including what you said, what we all said, much is in agreement, the rest going forward is our strategy.  That is it.  The end, for us, as the bettor. 

Once upon a time you wrote in small case, it's much easier on the eye, if you have issues seeing and or on a small device I get it.  If it's something you can overcome by going back to please consider.  Thank you.    

[kooter for hipin]

AS A BETTOR, I AGREE WITH THE POSTER WHO SAID JUST PUT THEM IN A QUALIFER SO NOBOY GETS BURNED.  MAYBE RUN THE QUALIFIER AT NIGHT TO GIVE THE HORSE SOME EXPERIENCE UNDER THE LIGHTS AND THE FEEL OF A FEW FANS IN THE STANDS. OR MAYBE THEY CAN EVEN RUN A FEW RACES AT NIGHT WITH SMALL PURSES THAT ARE NON BETTING FOR OWNERS JUST WANTING TO EDUCATE THEIR HORSES.  BUT YOU CANT DO WHAT DEXTER DID IN THIS RACE AND ASSUME THAT BETTORS SHOULD KNOW THAT HE ISNT TRYING TO WIN.  THATS JUST NOT RIGHT IN MY BOOK.

Well said!

[kooter for hipin]

AS A BETTOR, I AGREE WITH THE POSTER WHO SAID JUST PUT THEM IN A QUALIFER SO NOBOY GETS BURNED.  MAYBE RUN THE QUALIFIER AT NIGHT TO GIVE THE HORSE SOME EXPERIENCE UNDER THE LIGHTS AND THE FEEL OF A FEW FANS IN THE STANDS. OR MAYBE THEY CAN EVEN RUN A FEW RACES AT NIGHT WITH SMALL PURSES THAT ARE NON BETTING FOR OWNERS JUST WANTING TO EDUCATE THEIR HORSES.  BUT YOU CANT DO WHAT DEXTER DID IN THIS RACE AND ASSUME THAT BETTORS SHOULD KNOW THAT HE ISNT TRYING TO WIN.  THATS JUST NOT RIGHT IN MY BOOK.

This is a great post. Listen! Almost every night at BigM, you can hear that asswipe Warkentin, at the end of a race, refer to a horse that got beat as a big favorite say, "now he's got an acclimating mile under his belt". That's just another way of saying "No Go". Bye the way, as you say, do that on practice tracks, not when folks that can't afford it put their faith, funds, and trust in you. Not only that, it's a violation of Federal Statues pertaining to "trying to interfere in the outcome of a sporting event." Any horse that does not give an optimum efforts, affects the final outcome of that race.

[Senator Blutarsky]

This is a great post. Listen! Almost every night at BigM, you can hear that asswipe Warkentin, at the end of a race, refer to a horse that got beat as a big favorite say, "now he's got an acclimating mile under his belt". That's just another way of saying "No Go". Bye the way, as you say, do that on practice tracks, not when folks that can't afford it put their faith, funds, and trust in you. Not only that, it's a violation of Federal Statues pertaining to "trying to interfere in the outcome of a sporting event." Any horse that does not give an optimum efforts, affects the final outcome of that race.

The horse just missed winning, it could hardly be proven as a conspiracy of the aforementioned, without evidence, testimony, co-conspirators.  No one herein doubted it was a bad ride, and possibly he fucked over too those that backed the horse, I pointed out he missed the gate too.  Baby pacers they (judges, regulatory, track, even bettors) give all kinds of latitude too like not going heavy with the whip, and further with those type trotters with not an aggressive shake up the bike ride.   

I keep all that shit muted, and it's not shit, every bit of info means something.  When I have tuned in and focused live and followed through I saw some unusual stuff, like possible conflicts of interest in the winners circle.

I can't do it all, none of us can, but reporting this stuff and READING is important.  If we go it alone, well ya can't you can't be watching no 1000 or so races a day worldwide alone! 

[shotgunner]

The long stretch does take acclimating to, it’s a real thing. Reading way too much into it.

[Senator Blutarsky]

The long stretch does take acclimating to, it’s a real thing. Reading way too much into it.

3 year old trotter ran 152 1/5 missed by a head despite an awful ride, came home in 26 1/5, cost $675k......they have their sights on the Hambo, not no .40, $14.5k purse....I'd say he's "acclimating" quite well (at the BigM) for what they're hoping for!   

[kooter for hipin]

The long stretch does take acclimating to, it’s a real thing. Reading way too much into it.

I am not reading anything into anything and I can accept your point. I didn't say it, Warkentin did. It was something that never should have been said because it can be read the wrong way. Don't all mile tracks have long stretches?  Warkentin is way over the top with certain drivers with music and all the other circus bullshit .  He should just call races without his personal opinion of what happened and why and leave his bubble gum music to Tommy Roe.  Arriba!

[Senator Blutarsky]

I am not reading anything into anything and I can accept your point. I didn't say it, Warkentin did. It was something that never should have been said because it can be read the wrong way. Don't all mile tracks have long stretches?  Warkentin is way over the top with certain drivers with music and all the other circus bullshit .  He should just call races without his personal opinion of what happened and why and leave his bubble gum music to Tommy Roe.  Arriba!

https://kenvoice.com/ <----- His email, cell and home number...GO tell him, suggested, be respectful and make thoughtful suggestions and maybe he'll follow through and thank you! 

When members here had (BigM) issues, or concerns I went straight to Jeff Gural ASAP and asked for his advisement and he immediately communicated in real time and I posted it all here!

Otherwise it's just a complaining, raging, raving thing happening here - and we're not real dudes, just pussies of which I ain't! You say he's giving us shit, well have him change the "menu".  On and on and on....! 

[kooter for hipin]

https://kenvoice.com/ <----- His email, cell and home number...GO tell him, suggested, be respectful and make thoughtful suggestions and maybe he'll follow through and thank you! 

When members here had (BigM) issues, or concerns I went straight to Jeff Gural ASAP and asked for his advisement and he immediately communicated in real time and I posted it all here!

Otherwise it's just a complaining, raging, raving thing happening here - and we're not real dudes, just pussies of which I ain't! You say he's giving us shit, well have him change the "menu".  On and on and on....! 

Not falling for it Senator.  You better than anybody knows that no one really wins a fight but it's fun trying.