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BURKE/WEAVER ACTUALLY HURTING THE SPORT
« on: May 22, 2022, 05:36:55 AM »
WHEN DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH

ALWAYS THE LEADING MONEY-WINNING TRAINER BY A LANDSLIDE

BUILDS UP STABLES IN THE NEW UP AND COMING STATES

NOW BUYING THE TOP-PRICED HORSES ON THE INTERNET SALES SITES.

HAS MORE MULTIPLE ENTRIES THAN ANYONE IN OVERNIGHTS AND STAKES RACES

THEY OBVIOUSLY WORK HARD BUT THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THEY ARE HURTING ANY GROWTH OF THE SPORT BIG TIME



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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2022, 09:49:41 AM »

ALWAYS THE LEADING MONEY-WINNING TRAINER BY A LANDSLIDE

BUILDS UP STABLES IN THE NEW UP AND COMING STATES

NOW BUYING THE TOP-PRICED HORSES ON THE INTERNET SALES SITES.

HAS MORE MULTIPLE ENTRIES THAN ANYONE IN OVERNIGHTS AND STAKES RACES

THEY OBVIOUSLY WORK HARD BUT THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THEY ARE HURTING ANY GROWTH OF THE SPORT BIG TIME
[/quote] good discussion about this on prior  RUN FOR THE HILLS IN OHIO board
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2022, 11:19:54 AM »
The monopoly of horses is worse in harness than T-Bred racing. Although both are dying, Harness is closer to the grave and this is one of the reasons.

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2022, 12:14:54 PM »
anyone can feel free to out-bid them at the yearling sales, buy at the on-line auctions and claim from them at the claim box

they have no monopoly on the sport

feel free to raise capital and beat them

last I heard they haven't won the Hambletonian

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2022, 12:32:51 PM »
anyone can feel free to out-bid them at the yearling sales, buy at the on-line auctions and claim from them at the claim box

they have no monopoly on the sport

feel free to raise capital and beat them

last I heard they haven't won the Hambletonian

Correct.. it’s called capitalism boys and girls..

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2022, 12:50:10 PM »
they spend the most


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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2022, 01:32:26 PM »
yes people can claim off them and out bid then but...    we all know the positives get swept away from the huge outfits. tracks cant afford to not have their multiple entries.   then the little stables get screwed for the same positives.

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2022, 01:49:38 PM »
I don’t know

Can’t figure out what they are doing wrong

That’s bothering you guys they buy a lot of horses
80 to
90 percent of their babies don’t pan out  but  the  rest are really good or close to grand circuit material  every yr

They claim a lot and buy a lot of  over night horses  privately

And claim a lot

EVERYONE can do the same as they are doing

ITS NOT A BIG SECRET

All you ploppers can do the same


What’s the problem boys


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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2022, 02:10:41 PM »
true capitalism( god bless america)
its a free country
did mcdonalds give shit about mom and pop burger joints as they opened  stores across north america
i understand harness racing is a little different than fast food but the concept of capital flowing to where it gets a good roi is not

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2022, 02:38:40 PM »
Correct.. it’s called capitalism boys and girls..
That's right where the 1% own most the wealth.  Rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Sure sounds like the state of harness racing.

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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2022, 02:50:42 PM »
I don’t know

Can’t figure out what they are doing wrong

That’s bothering you guys they buy a lot of horses
80 to
90 percent of their babies don’t pan out  but  the  rest are really good or close to grand circuit material  every yr

They claim a lot and buy a lot of  over night horses  privately

And claim a lot

EVERYONE can do the same as they are doing

ITS NOT A BIG SECRET

All you ploppers can do the same


What’s the problem boys


NO MONEY  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
They definitely must know how to pick the yearlings. I have followed 15 of their 2020 downbytheseaside yearling picks. All but three are doing very well as 3 yo. Much higher percent return on their money than other stables. They are awful lucky or have some magic formula no one knows about.

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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2022, 03:08:09 PM »
They definitely must know how to pick the yearlings. I have followed 15 of their 2020 downbytheseaside yearling picks. All but three are doing very well as 3 yo. Much higher percent return on their money than other stables. They are awful lucky or have some magic formula no one knows about.


need luck on yearlings, Seaside yearlings so far have been better than other stallions

they have their share of yearlings that don't perform, everyone does

feel free to put your own people and money together, select a trainer, and out-do them, it's a free sport

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2022, 04:31:41 PM »


 The Stable has a ton of horses, spend a lot $$$ at sales etc

 Burkes aren't the only ones
It doesn't hold weight when you are only doing something out of spite, after being kicked out & having nowhere to go.

 Just being a phony with a grudge (& no job), didn't seem to care for years.
 Let go from the hate, free yourself.

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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2022, 04:40:55 PM »
ummm kole
did you just compare the stable.ca to the burke brigade
please say that was not your intention

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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2022, 05:41:23 PM »
ummm kole
did you just compare the stable.ca to the burke brigade
please say that was not your intention


 only saying they have a ton of stock & do not get near the results

 It isn't only Ron making the Burke machine spin

 
It doesn't hold weight when you are only doing something out of spite, after being kicked out & having nowhere to go.

 Just being a phony with a grudge (& no job), didn't seem to care for years.
 Let go from the hate, free yourself.

 

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