Has demise of greyhound racing helped harness?

[cigar]

Iceman you sure seem to have a following o mighty one. Why don’t you post your stats and tell us about your hall of fame training success 40 years ago? It’s easy to hide behind a computer ain’t it and call out everyone. Real men don’t hide and play guess who I am do they?

[dinkadoo]

The ONLY solution to save harness racing is contraction.

saw what that did to handles at B level tracks when only a handful were racing at B level tracks at the start of covid.

Why did runners survive last year with only 1% drop in handle in 2020 ? Big pools and big fields. That's what bettors want.
With big runner tracks going right now, and you see Tampa Bay Downs handling 250k a race, there is horse racing money out there. Hell even Turfway Park in Northern KY, which has no grandstand handles a 150k per race at night.

[The Exporter]

This trend will be corrected with casinos allowed to increase the in house population. The coup De Grace will be right behind that with mobile sports betting all around the country. The market for harness racing will suffer greatly.

[Superfecta]

Hell even Turfway Park in Northern KY, which has no grandstand handles a 150k per race at night.

It's 2021, everybody bets from computer or phone. You don't need a grandstand anymore and most are still closed anyway.

[Superfecta]

This trend will be corrected with casinos allowed to increase the in house population. The coup De Grace will be right behind that with mobile sports betting all around the country. The market for harness racing will suffer greatly.

The market for harness racing has been suffering for years. It's almost completely gone. Most people just don't like it and are not interested in it. The reputation is also that every race is fixed so that kills any chance of new players as well.

[Rabbi Of Racing]

It's a dead game laddie's

[DICK FURLONG]

 YOU BUGGY BOYS BETTER BE PAYIN ATTENTION OR CANT YOU AFFORD IT? 
  CANT WAIT TO SEE THE PROTESTS IN CAPITAL CITIES WHEN CASINOS START TO SHUT DOWN HARNESS TRACKS LIKE OIL PIPELINES.
 GONNA MAKE THE TRUMP INSURRECTION SEEM MINOR

[The Exporter]

Choices will need to be made. Harness racing still has a solid partner in state agriculture. Going forward, it is the overnights that are most vulnerable and with decreasing influence.   

[Wawajones]

Thoroughbreds are under pressure from PETA more so than harness.  In general, Standardbreds are more structurally sound, have longer racing careers.  Deaths at Santa Anita, chemists like Navarro, Baffert, Hollendorfer, et al, all have lead to more scrutiny.  Harness should be racing that survives.

[chief yogi]

thats true that the old money in the tbreds will keep things going. enough oil barrons are into the flats.

[cigar]

Some guys will do time and than be right back in racing, you can’t keep them from earning a living as long as they do their time they are good. Racing jurisdictions will get sued and be forced to Liscense them once one of them wins a case it sets precedence for the rest.