Author Topic: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.  (Read 17417 times)

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There is only one reason I cash tickets at Woodbine anymore.....I Box! I box and box and box.  tmbz1

No singles, no keys and no trusting these Canadian fucks to give an honest effort. 11.wp

What I cash has zero to do with what I post about or email racing boards about. tmbz1

I got Marcus Miller a 7 day vacation for pulling a similar no try drive shit with an Erv 1/9 monster.

I hit that race big because I anticipated the no try drive coming from Marcus.

When I emailed the Illinois Racing Board I included a snapshot of my bets to prove I wasn't just a sore loser.

I knew the way these guys operate and as sure as shit stinks they performed right on cue. tmbz1

Filion ducked inside into a 29.1 last quarter with a NACup eligible horse who finished blocked at the wire.

This was a text book no try drive and if I had paid those nomination fees I would be pissed. 91zxa.1

The fuck does this even mean? There are tons of horses staked to everything that never win a race. The best is next time out the horse will get a cleaner trip and win by daylights. You'll see this and say "see I was right, it was a stiff!". Love betting against morons like you.

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My first post, here's my two cents worth:

I don't think Filion stiffed this horse.  I think he a very, VERY overrated driver that is actually quite sedated most nights and I have seen comatose moves like this one from him many times over the 30 years I've followed racing.  First-time no Filion to a McNair, Roy, Henry and forget about it, the horse will be better.

That brings about the underlying issue in the original poster's rant: WHY ARE THE BETTORS SHARPER THAN THE DRIVERS ARE MORE THAN THEY ARE NOT?  It's true!  It's a big reason why I bet much less than I used to.  I work like a dog to have expendable income to pursue my hobby that I've been passionate about since my Grandfather started taking me to the races as a kid only to have Louis Roy fence a Beachin Lindy at 1/5 or, as in this case, Filion's in a coma on a 1/5 shot who is clearly on the left line and inclined to run out on his own but decides to STEER him to the inside.  Does he win if he gives him his face and let's him run out, avoiding the slight inside traffic at the wire?  Maybe not, but sure would be nice to have a chance to see.  And don't get me wrong: no real wise guy wants the horse to win anyway and most of the big plays I make these days are to beat horses/drivers like this combination, but having said that, I know I'm in the minority (because the horse was favored) and I understand the bigger picture of this issue, the frustration of the betting public in a nutshell: we as handicappers, lovers of the game, gamblers are sharper than the majority of the guys at the controls and they make a very good living regardless while we tap out supporting a sport we love in which the odds are so stacked against us (takeout, incremental wagers, drugged up horses and AWFUL, AWFUL, drives) that we really should shake our heads and wonder why we even bother, especially when the governing bodies are of the same characteristics as the drivers: dispassionate, complacent, entitled, comatose and just plain stupid.

Thanks for reading.  Looking forward to some more back and forth on this.  Have a good Friday.

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One thing that hasn't changed in the last 50 years of horse racing is the low IQ of the average participant. 11.hmzr

Anyone involved with advising stake payments to the North American Cup had been better be sure their horse can go under 1:50 otherwise they should be sued for malpractice. 11.dt

And any horse nominated to the NACup shouldn't need a "clean trip" to beat a NW-1 field who have 100 loses between them ! :1

And any plop member with an IQ above 7 knows this to be true. angbk

P.T. Barnum must have been responding to a horse racing forum when he said "There is a sucker born every second".

 95xz.2 tmbz1

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Swoodall I just got off the phone with Dr. Phil and he prescribes you to take a gun and shoot yourself. Just STFU.

SWOOEY AFTER HE FOUND OUT HIS CHILD PORN CHANNEL WAS BEING TAKEN AWAY

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Swoodall I just got off the phone with Dr. Phil and he prescribes you to take a gun and shoot yourself. Just STFU.

Oh god you went and did it. Swoodall will demand to know who you are, and  threaten to shut the plop down

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No wonder somebody called NIU and said one of their students dads was a lunatic racist

Who brags they got somebody suspended and is a tattle tail

Steve Woodall of Wilmington needs to end his crippled pathetic life
gonna start a syndicate betting balmoral, who wants to invest?

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No wonder somebody called NIU and said one of their students dads was a lunatic racist

Who brags they got somebody suspended and is a tattle tail

Steve Woodall of Wilmington needs to end his crippled pathetic life

THEY STOLE HIS I.D. AT THE OTB  PARLOR WAS HIS BEST STORY ngc3

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If he doesnt save and split horses he misses the board all together, you guys are such fucking retards it's astonishing really.

slivercharm

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THEY STOLE HIS I.D. AT THE OTB  PARLOR WAS HIS BEST STORY ngc3

No the one where they flattened his tires was a klassic

Best was when Payton ode made him shit his depends
gonna start a syndicate betting balmoral, who wants to invest?

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Who is Payton Ode, and why is he down as trainer for PRIMO GIOVANNI...the horse Allard just claimed from Burke on May 8th....that shows Allard as owner

Hoosier   May 15th  Race  5

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French rat Sylvain Filion who absolutely takes nights off from trying has earned himself a well deserved suspension.

The problem here is he might not get one.  91zxa.1

Filion the unreliable cheating fuck buried the 1/5 in the 8th by moving to the inside behind tiring leaders.

Filion was clear in mid stretch with Tyga Hanover when he inexplicably darted left to lock himself in!

The 2,7,9 were slowing down mid stretch as Filion started gaining ground....apparen tly too much ground.

This move had one purpose and that was to NOT win! 94z.sm

Coming off a layoff with one qualifier and bet down to 1/5 in a nw1 condition race, Filion had plenty of horse left. 11.wp

Trouble was as I said he was determined not to win. 77z.chf 91.jzail

I boxed 259 and played 5/279 for super. It came 9-2-5-7.

I had the tri which paid good so save your loser lament bullshit.

Woodbine has recently suspended a couple of high profile drivers for a lot less obvious infractions. angbk

So now they have to prove they are not playing favorites by suspending Filion for the same number of days. tmbz1

Perhaps this requires revisiting after tonight's performance.

This is why people don't bet anymore.  Last week, buried up, in and out, burned money.  Tonight, down the road like Somebeachsomewher e himself.  No consistency, judges aren't even watching or caring.  You tell me how someone who's first two trips to the track were to bet and watch this horse last week and then again this week ever doesn't immediately think crooked thoughts.  Brutal.

Powerful Patricks Ghost

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Perhaps this requires revisiting after tonight's performance.

This is why people don't bet anymore.  Last week, buried up, in and out, burned money.  Tonight, down the road like Somebeachsomewher e himself.  No consistency, judges aren't even watching or caring.  You tell me how someone who's first two trips to the track were to bet and watch this horse last week and then again this week ever doesn't immediately think crooked thoughts.  Brutal.


Gee, look at the 2nd post:

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Sorry but the drive isn't worthy of suspension at all. People betting down a horse making first start at 3 to 1/5 are insane. I actually think the horse raced huge for the trip. Was first over for half a mile then ducked in the stretch (when tired).  Shouldn't even give you this info but any competent capper will know without looking...the horse traveled 24 extra feet in the race--9 more than the nearest horse.

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wow, i see people are still sour they bet a  maiden horse to 3/5 in his first start of the year and he was third by a length pacing his last 3/4 in 124.3 over a good track
yet tonight he jogs as follows
       back with regular trainer(oops nobody has mentioned that)
       equipment change(oops nobody noticed that)
       fast track
       tighter after that first start






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wow, i see people are still sour they bet a  maiden horse to 3/5 in his first start of the year and he was third by a length pacing his last 3/4 in 124.3 over a good track
yet tonight he jogs as follows
       back with regular trainer(oops nobody has mentioned that)
       equipment change(oops nobody noticed that)
       fast track
       tighter after that first start
proof he should get a year suspention

Brown jug

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right
he stiffed the horse last week so they could all cash at 2/5 last night
cmon man !!!

 

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