Hurricane Beach

[helpplease]

UNCLE SPEAKING NOW

SCoop,

Lissen Up To Uncle Time For You

First, Uncle tell you about Etrophine!!

1.  "Elephant Juice" = "M99" = Etrophine.  So Simple!!

2.  Is part-synthetic opiod (the natural part comes from the Poppy plant)  

3.  It does not come from Elephants (Would be too easy!!)

4.  Name come from fact that it is whoa-some powerful and ONLY legit purpose is to quickly immobilize large mammals like, well, elephants.  Maybe also angry Hippopotomus?

5.  Distribution is supposedly very narrow and when it is sent to a veterinarian, the Reversing/Antidote agent is also included.

6.  Even at microscopic levels, It is incredibly LETHAL to humans.  So much so that when Etrophine is distributed to a Veterinarian the HUMAN ANTIDOTE is also included.

Now, Uncle tell you about Etrophine and Race Horse..

1.  ILLEGAL

2.  No antidote exist

3.  No dosage guidelines exist

FINALLY,  So Why Use On Horse?


At some VERY SMALL BUT INDETERMINABLE dosage level, which will vary with each and every horse, Etrophine will have an incredibly strong stimulant effect.  THAT'S WHY.

UNCLE is glad to help when UNCLE asked question UNCLE know answer to.  

Now you can make good discussion on subject with other Big-Shot Harness Peoples at your fancy dining room table at the Hambo (while Uncle stuck outside after you bait and switch me) or at the USE HORSE SALE.

THIS HAS BEEN UNCLE SPEAKING

Why would anyone deliberately use a detectable class 1/2 drug & especially someone that knows his horses are being tested up the ying yang? And since it is detectable & as some are saying, he uses, why no positives?

[Fatboy]

Why would anyone deliberately use a detectable class 1/2 drug & especially someone that knows his horses are being tested up the ying yang? And since it is detectable & as some are saying, he uses, why no positives?

BECAUSE ITS NOT BEING USED IN THIS CASE?

[oh canada]

They have solutions that cloud testing . It's down to a science.

[Calhoun]

They have solutions that cloud testing . It's down to a science.

So you believe Etrophine is commonly and used currently?

There are several good reasons to believe otherwise.

1.  EPO is effective and relatively easier to max
2.  So is Propantheline
3.  Anabolic Steroids

Plus

Etrophine is Fucking deadly.  It is 2,000 times more powerful than morphine.  To take down an Elephant, the needle is effectively dipped.  For a horse, you would use "a drop."  You get a drop of it on a cut or scab, you're dead.

It makes me laugh when self proclaimed Big-time harness owners and long-ago owners offer simplistic proclamations like you.

what about Frog Juice?

Cobra Venom?

Immigrant migration?

Child, please

[TTitans1]

Why would anyone deliberately use a detectable class 1/2 drug & especially someone that knows his horses are being tested up the ying yang? And since it is detectable & as some are saying, he uses, why no positives?

He gets plenty of positives but never has to answer to them! It was used plenty at different times in racing. It was dipped in the bottle, pulled back and pushed back into the bottle and only the residue left in the syringe was put into the horse. I didn`t say he is using that but he is using something very much like it along with a great breather and blood-builder.

[Lance]

Did this horse race just out of a feed tub?

[Fatboy]

He gets plenty of positives but never has to answer to them! It was used plenty at different times in racing. It was dipped in the bottle, pulled back and pushed back into the bottle and only the residue left in the syringe was put into the horse. I didn`t say he is using that but he is using something very much like it along with a great breather and blood-builder.

HE IS?

[Calhoun]

He gets plenty of positives but never has to answer to them! It was used plenty at different times in racing. It was dipped in the bottle, pulled back and pushed back into the bottle and only the residue left in the syringe was put into the horse. I didn`t say he is using that but he is using something very much like it along with a great breather and blood-builder.

A Little Bit of A Little Bit?

I buy that.

[oh canada]

So you believe Etrophine is commonly and used currently?

There are several good reasons to believe otherwise.

1.  EPO is effective and relatively easier to max
2.  So is Propantheline
3.  Anabolic Steroids

Plus

Etrophine is Fucking deadly.  It is 2,000 times more powerful than morphine.  To take down an Elephant, the needle is effectively dipped.  For a horse, you would use "a drop."  You get a drop of it on a cut or scab, you're dead.

It makes me laugh when self proclaimed Big-time harness owners and long-ago owners offer simplistic proclamations like you.

what about Frog Juice?

Cobra Venom?

Immigrant migration?

Child, please

I was referring to Allards love of pushing the limits of soda. Nowhere did I ever mention that drug Etrophine, don't know anything about it. You need to calm yourself....child please.

[helpplease]

BECAUSE ITS NOT BEING USED IN THIS CASE?

So what about the other hundreds of times Allard has been tested? No entrophine positives that I know of.

[Fatboy]

So what about the other hundreds of times Allard has been tested? No entrophine positives that I know of.

WASNT USED THEN EITHER WOULD BE THE LOGICAL STEP HERE, NO?

[helpplease]

WASNT USED THEN EITHER WOULD BE THE LOGICAL STEP HERE, NO?

Yup.

[Fatboy]

Yup.

he's innocent

[helpplease]

he's innocent

Unless proven guilty I agree.

[Brkn Headpole]

He uses a drug that metabolizes within the horses system to turn it into morphine.

Has two drenches, one for Canada, one for US. He does run alot of jugs thru them and general maintenance but when he is not allowed near them for at least 8 hr retention his results are dramatically different.