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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2018, 07:15:34 PM »
 WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF LINE SHOPPING IN NEIGHBORING STATES WILL BECOME POPULAR.  CATCH A MIDDLE.  WAYNE ALAN ROOT AND SCOTT NANCE MAY GO BACK TO THEIR SPORTS TOUTING SCAMS.  WHO WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO CLAIM THEY HAVE 75%
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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2018, 08:49:14 PM »
I think they meant SCROTUM.
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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2018, 08:53:39 PM »
Obviously this is better for a track to have live betting for sporting games because it brings other revenue into the track. If it's electronic then it's just like ADW. Also if your there wagering on sports for a 3 hour game with your money tied up, your not betting the ponies. Reports say the Vegas sport book is just 2% of its gaming handle. It helps other things related with having a casino and patrons spending money. Slots are where the money is made. I'm on the fence a little that this is a big revenue hit for race tracks and there purse account. IN maybe be in a better spot with Caesars owning the track and getting sports betting. Same with Penn owning the Meadows or Harrahs with Chester. Churchill owns a few tracks. I think in short term go out and purchase some stock in those names. Also Vegas this year had record profits on the sport wagering end while horse racing revenues declined.
 
Good in site.  I don't see it as a win for any entity than the government. 

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2018, 10:39:59 PM »
Monmouth will be the first horseracing track to offer sports wagering .
50 BILLION DOLLARS ARE EXPECTED TO BE WAGERED .
LOOK FOR OTHER STATES TO FOLLOW

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2018, 11:16:22 PM »
P.S. The person to thank for this freedom bestowed upon sports bettors is state D- Sen. Ray Lesniak, of the 20th voting district of N.J.

This was his bill from day 1. Even once Chris Christie left the wagon, Ray always stood on the running boards and got it to the Supreme court and ultimately the finish line.

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2018, 11:53:47 PM »
REMEMBER STATES DONT LET YOU BET ON CREDIT, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BOOKIE DOES
EDDIE MUNSTER SAID THE SAME THING

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2018, 12:00:09 AM »
Jeff Gural disagrees. This was his quite from December

At the Meadowlands we’ve overpaid purses by $4 million right now and (paying more into the purse account) is not an issue for me,” he said. “The horsemen are lucky I fund the losses that keep the Meadowlands open so I doubt if this would have a dramatic effect on purses. All it’s going to do is help pay the bills. Obviously, if I am wrong and there is some bonanza from sports betting that I am not anticipating I would look into sharing it with the horsemen. But all I’ve ever head from people is you don’t make a lot of money from sports betting.”
Just wait until they make single games -130.  You think PA rake is high!

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2018, 12:09:16 AM »
NO BETTING IN UTAH

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« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2018, 02:01:04 AM »
Have to love the on going commitment by the ones who write these horse racing articles. That the second to last paragraph referring to NJ horse tracks and agribusiness as being a 4 bln dollar industry. Some day someone will have to call them out for this information and provide actually details. Along with the usual 30,000 people in various states that are involved in horse racing. For some reason that's usually the magic number. O well whatever sells.

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2018, 09:06:50 AM »
Dear Mr. racefan127,
    Excellent post, thank you for taking the time to write a most superb summary, bravo!

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2018, 11:32:59 AM »
WE HAVE THREE CASINOS IN DOWNTOWN DETROIT.  I GO ONES A YEAR.  NO MORE. NOW I WILL GO 5-7 DAYS A WEEK,  tmbz1  TAKE OUT AT THE TRACKS 18%-25%   SPORTS 5% U TELL ME WHAT THE BETTER BET IS. 

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« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2018, 12:20:10 PM »
WE HAVE THREE CASINOS IN DOWNTOWN DETROIT.  I GO ONES A YEAR.  NO MORE. NOW I WILL GO 5-7 DAYS A WEEK,  tmbz1  TAKE OUT AT THE TRACKS 18%-25%   SPORTS 5% U TELL ME WHAT THE BETTER BET IS. 

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2018, 01:19:43 PM »
WE HAVE THREE CASINOS IN DOWNTOWN DETROIT.  I GO ONES A YEAR.  NO MORE. NOW I WILL GO 5-7 DAYS A WEEK,  tmbz1  TAKE OUT AT THE TRACKS 18%-25%   SPORTS 5% U TELL ME WHAT THE BETTER BET IS. 


... By the time everyone gets done wanting a piece of the pie I doubt 5% vig will be attainable, but it will still lower than track takeout

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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2018, 05:24:51 PM »
From what I've heard, there is a possibility that the state-run sports betting apps that Illinois will implement might include horse racing. I think this would be HUGE for harness racing.

Yes, I know the tracks see very little of the money wagered on sites like twinspires, xpressbet, etc., and it would likely be the same in this case.  But right now, the sport needs EXPOSURE! I'm probably the youngest person on these boards at 21 years old. So many of my friends don't even know what harness racing is!  I've introduced about 15 people to the sport by taking them to the track, and guess what?  They had a blast and have gone back several times on their own!

If Hawthorne can find a way to get themselves on Illinois's sports betting app, they are automatically at the fingertips of 10+ million people! If just a mere 0.1% of people who use this app click on that "Horse Racing - Hawthorne Racecourse" option... BOOM, Hawthorne just reached out to 10,000+ new people.

If Illinois horsemen are only concerned with the short term impact of joining this app (a potential dip in handle), this may be the demise of Illinois harness racing.  But if they advocate with full force to be apart of this new wave of sports betting, this could be the savior harness racing needs.
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Re: PAPSA struck down! States win rights on sports betting.
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2018, 06:33:05 PM »
From what I've heard, there is a possibility that the state-run sports betting apps that Illinois will implement might include horse racing. I think this would be HUGE for harness racing.

Yes, I know the tracks see very little of the money wagered on sites like twinspires, xpressbet, etc., and it would likely be the same in this case.  But right now, the sport needs EXPOSURE! I'm probably the youngest person on these boards at 21 years old. So many of my friends don't even know what harness racing is!  I've introduced about 15 people to the sport by taking them to the track, and guess what?  They had a blast and have gone back several times on their own!

If Hawthorne can find a way to get themselves on Illinois's sports betting app, they are automatically at the fingertips of 10+ million people! If just a mere 0.1% of people who use this app click on that "Horse Racing - Hawthorne Racecourse" option... BOOM, Hawthorne just reached out to 10,000+ new people.

If Illinois horsemen are only concerned with the short term impact of joining this app (a potential dip in handle), this may be the demise of Illinois harness racing.  But if they advocate with full force to be apart of this new wave of sports betting, this could be the savior harness racing needs.
as a resident of Melrose park and Illinois I gotta tell you...Illinois is retarded. the democrats running things will tax the gamblers...again! and give tax breaks to the racetrack owners, casino operators, and legal book shops if any appear on their own.

the little guy will be crushed...example paying -125 instead of -110 on a Bears game. 2 teamers will pay 22.5/10 instead of 26/10. the books and tracks will skirt paying for the privilege of taking wagers as usual so they can spend their billions lobbying to keep the cash tiled their way.

lastly, there will be NO track susbidies like vlt's paying for purses aka yonkers. book shops will pay a business tax and not put much into advertising much less a 90% dead business like harness.

just might push harness over the cliff once and for all here.

do you know how I fell sickened every time I drive past Maywood and see it withering away there? a lifetime of memories gone. really sux
well, it's game over here at Maywood. thanks johnny Johnston for giving us fans the shaft!

 

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