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captain morgan

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Re: thestable.ca
« Reply #135 on: September 19, 2018, 08:20:01 PM »
Horses racing huge in most jurisdictions.  Had a hambo horse, a horse in Haughton, a top stakes horse in NY and a few in Ohio and PA. There's at least 3 going to Breeders Crown, how can you knock that for a few dollars invested.

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« Reply #136 on: September 19, 2018, 10:13:53 PM »
HE’D BE LOSING MONEY IF HIS BILL WAS 2800$ A MONTH.
I HAVE TO BELIEVE HES CLOSE TO 5000$ A MONTH.

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« Reply #137 on: September 19, 2018, 11:09:02 PM »
 wrong. Bill is what I said. If I’m wrong someone in the group say different. I don’t even mind posting last months bill if it stops the naysayers,

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« Reply #138 on: September 20, 2018, 12:31:18 AM »
danny boy facts are correct

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« Reply #139 on: September 20, 2018, 05:40:00 AM »
Horses racing huge in most jurisdictions.  Had a hambo horse, a horse in Haughton, a top stakes horse in NY and a few in Ohio and PA. There's at least 3 going to Breeders Crown, how can you knock that for a few dollars invested.

you named 7 horses
what about the other 90+ he has "training"
what have they done?

Provel Blue Chip = $23,000 yearling purchase
Purchased October 2016
3 lifetime starts under "the stable"
October 2016 to January 2018 payments
earnings on the track for "the stable" $325

Gouda Hanover = $11,000 yearling purchase
Purchased September 2016
8 lifetime starts under "the stable"
September 2016 to February 2018 payments
earning on the track for "the stable" $1,625

Vintage Lock = $11,000 yearling purchase
Purchased October 2016
2 lifetime starts under "the stable"
October 2016 to September 2017 payments
earning on the track for "the stable" $320

off broadway, gratuity, master saver, road tripper, mckinnon, these are just the 3 year olds
i can continue, there are more........

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« Reply #140 on: September 20, 2018, 06:50:52 AM »
Wiggles    .....   Of course there are more.    The hit rate for buying yearlings aren't great odds.     You can also list $100k purchases from good trainers that never even made it to the track as 2 year olds, or never made it to the track at all.   You can list $100k yearlings that never made back 1/4 of what they were purchased for or never broke their maiden. 

Again, you are convinced it is a ripoff.
Answer the earlier question.
How much does Cassie charge and how much does The Stable charge.

I think your rip off argument is fake news and you should really tell us why you hate this trainer or his idea so much !!

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Re: thestable.ca
« Reply #141 on: September 20, 2018, 07:58:51 AM »
you named 7 horses
what about the other 90+ he has "training"
what have they done?

Provel Blue Chip = $23,000 yearling purchase
Purchased October 2016
3 lifetime starts under "the stable"
October 2016 to January 2018 payments
earnings on the track for "the stable" $325

Gouda Hanover = $11,000 yearling purchase
Purchased September 2016
8 lifetime starts under "the stable"
September 2016 to February 2018 payments
earning on the track for "the stable" $1,625

Vintage Lock = $11,000 yearling purchase
Purchased October 2016
2 lifetime starts under "the stable"
October 2016 to September 2017 payments
earning on the track for "the stable" $320

off broadway, gratuity, master saver, road tripper, mckinnon, these are just the 3 year olds
i can continue, there are more........

 11.wj



Sounds to me that you picked out a few bad ones LOL. Show me a barn that all horses make a profit.  You sir apparently  have a serious nut against the stable or Anthony. 

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« Reply #142 on: September 20, 2018, 08:28:02 AM »
Sounds to me that you picked out a few bad ones LOL. Show me a barn that all horses make a profit.  You sir apparently  have a serious nut against the stable or Anthony. 
Yep --- how many did Burke start with ? How about Takter or Br Brown..... all good, maybe the best in the business right now... How many did not turn a profit... Do you think their average purchase price is higher than the Stable ?
how about the bills ? Do you think these trainers charge more than the Stable ?

Not sure why many have a hard on for someone trying something different.....The industry is shrinking with owners, deep pocket guys going with about a dozen trainers..... Stake races that are filled with only two trainers. A regular Joe like myself, going to college, has a family, and I could afford to buy a couple % into a horse..... Seems like it something different, maybe work, maybe not....

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« Reply #143 on: September 20, 2018, 10:04:57 AM »
THEY HAVIN FUN AND NOT COMPLAINING SO WHATS THE HARM?
GLASSES NOT INCLUDED WITH MEMBERSHIP?

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« Reply #144 on: September 20, 2018, 11:27:06 AM »
The members who sold Swandre must be happy. Seven figures with many owners would still be nice return.

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« Reply #145 on: September 20, 2018, 03:58:33 PM »
i'm not giving my fucking money away
good luck

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« Reply #146 on: September 20, 2018, 04:13:53 PM »
Wiggles you can make that same argument with all big stables. More misses then hits. However it did seem the stable had good success in IN, OH, PA, and I don't follow ON that much to know. With pacer and trotters. There also succeeding at a top level in those sire programs without buying those high priced yearlings. Seems like by reports also the cost are a lot lower then your east coast training bills. As a owner you also get a weekly report via a video rundown of all the horses with weekly drone footage of them jogging down and then training down. I'm not sure how the big time trainers cater to their owners with being in the loop weekly and seeing your horse on the track. Maybe it's time for these trainers and there high cost monthly bills step up and offer the same. Then owners don't have to wait for qualifiers to work through the bs.

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Re: thestable.ca
« Reply #147 on: September 20, 2018, 10:50:22 PM »
Good trainers don’t have to offer
Discount bills
Anthony does because he is horrible
And only way to get clients

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« Reply #148 on: September 20, 2018, 10:59:17 PM »
Good trainers don’t have to offer
Discount bills
Anthony does because he is horrible
And only way to get clients

Being a good trainer isnt good enough for the future of the sport.   Where will new owners come for these good trainers? The drones, videos, the small percentages, mobile apps is a step towards millenials.

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« Reply #149 on: September 21, 2018, 12:45:18 AM »
Good trainers don’t have to offer
Discount bills
Anthony does because he is horrible
And only way to get clients

they’re not really discount bills, A lot of trainers over charge everything  tmbz1

 

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