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Most failed horsemen try to become judges.
He took a different route.
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Harness Racing / Re: A Harness Racing Data Insider’s Exit Interview
« Last post by Papillon on Today at 10:21:09 AM »
I wish i could write as well as you can but here is my truth,     Everything you talked about is so ABC to me and most people reading this have no concept of what you are talking about but its dead on,      Your article is exactly what real players talk about but they are all gone but you left out a very important fact that someone is corrupting the pools with huge money going on horses that leave well and that makes the rake even tougher to beat and you have to look for closers because they become value an eighth of a mile into the race,         I never thought that carryovers would be a losing bet for the pro but all carryovers do is eliminate the rake and with the racing so biased on speed and small prices carryovers are nothing special even though it better than no carryover,       Send your article to drivers and management and most likely no one will read it or understand it but all you need is one to understand,    When i first wrote about the death of the game i had one of the big posters say that i have spoken to many gamblers and no one is quitting and this is one of the better writers on here and last join in and talk about stupidity and you will fit in,    i can go on and on but like the guys who have no clue would say it a dead game laddies without telling us why.

the bolded is why handle is "retail" dropping off rapidly--but handle has been rendered meaningless as long as slot welfare is propping up the entire industry

it's called betting after the bell ....that is allowed otherwise there would be a massive handle loss
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Harness Racing / Re: Larry Rolla tribute-well wishes
« Last post by simplify on Today at 10:17:55 AM »
No, I do not want Mike banded.

I don't know of anything he's done that would deem a banding reasonable.

Banding is way above my plopper pay grade as a simple member, why would it happen, not asking, the powers to be reserve the right, it's good enough for me.  tmbz1

banded...people typing this tell you all you need to know about them (and I get that it's a "joke"). But all bags.
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Harness Racing / Re: Harness racing today 2/17/26
« Last post by Trigger on Today at 09:57:39 AM »
What are you doing to enjoy it?

As for myself, sitting in one of the platforms at Sunshine Meadows in Delray Beach Florida waiting for one of my horses I own a part of train shortly. 75 degrees, sunny and getting a tan too!

From 20 miles south...getting fucked in the ass with my ridiculous picks at Mohawk as of last night.   ngc3

Was at Sunshine Meadows, 20 years ago.  Checking out the beautiful Norwegian horse women, feeding a retired Hambo winner an apple, playing cards with the guys.

Good luck with your horses and your tan.  tmbz1

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Harness Racing / Re: Nick Surik
« Last post by Mazola on Today at 09:53:26 AM »
I saw a post on Facebook by Bier complaining about him and his wife losing their livelihood due to suspension. Nick posted a reply so he must have some type of privileges.
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Political Roundtable / Re: Trump has killed the stock market
« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 09:47:51 AM »
If either of you was as well off as you say, you would know the fortune President Trump has brought to the wealthy!

I’m really not concerned about the wealthy!

All I know is I’m far from broke and living a real life.

Trigger is right!  What’s it like to live in a dungeon and spew the same nonsense over and over again and not having a life!
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Political Roundtable / Re: Trump has killed the stock market
« Last post by Foalin at 4 on Today at 09:42:22 AM »
If either of you was as well off as you say, you would know the fortune President Trump has brought to the wealthy!
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Harness Racing / Harness racing today 2/17/26
« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 09:40:26 AM »
What are you doing to enjoy it?

As for myself, sitting in one of the platforms at Sunshine Meadows in Delray Beach Florida waiting for one of my horses I own a part of train shortly. 75 degrees, sunny and getting a tan too!

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Harness Racing / Re: Nick Surik
« Last post by Harness racer on Today at 09:29:15 AM »
What is his current status as it relates to harness racing? Is he clear to get back in the game. I remember on day at the afternoon delight where his horses won the 1st 8 races with 2 left on the day. Amazing accomplishment if no enhancers were in play.

No enhancers?  Not sure he ever won a race without something extra!
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Democrats are at it again shutting down parts of the government!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Why shut down FEMA, TSA, Coast Guard, Secret Service? This has to hurt any midterm hopes they have!

WRONG AGAIN!

Both parties are!

Please think before you speak and type!
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