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Harness Racing / Re: Jeff Gural is Going to Get His BigM Casino!
« Last post by dougie on Today at 11:46:42 AM »
if it wasn't for Jeff there would be no racing in New Jersey you fucking idiot.  The man has spent millions he deserves a casino.
I think the vote will be very close in New Jersey. But I do think that the vote will go Gural's way at last. He's no youngster. I assume he'll eventually retire and sell or become a " absentee" CEO with someone else running the show.
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Harness Racing / Re: Jeff Gural is Going to Get His BigM Casino!
« Last post by G on Today at 11:46:27 AM »
I know what he's done but why does that earn him a casino dipshit?
You do realize that Jeff is leasing the Meadowlands. Do you actually think he's going to own a casino like Steve Wynn did? Oh please
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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by Lockedin with Pace on Today at 11:45:05 AM »
I knew owners and trainers who used to race for $500 back in the 70's in Delaware and ran over 50 times a year and were hard pressed to earn $10,000. For the people who just got in to racing 10 years ago it's good but most of the old timers who never made money have passed away. Even with the higher purses it's still difficult for the cheaper horses to make money because expenses are so high. The purses aside, business at most racetracks drop every year which certainly isn't thriving.
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Harness Racing / Re: Jeff Gural is Going to Get His BigM Casino!
« Last post by G on Today at 11:44:42 AM »
    ABSOLUTELY!!   ngc3 ngc3 GREAT AMBASSADOR to the sport. And what he did after the Tioga fires was heroic!!
I couldn't agree more!
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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by Sweet on Today at 11:44:38 AM »

If not for the revenue from the casinos half the tracks you say are thriving wouldn't even be here. On track handle and attendance at most of these thriving tracks are next to nothing. They couldn't stand on their own and the purses would be almost nothing.

Attendance, excellent point  tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: Jeff Gural is Going to Get His BigM Casino!
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 11:44:19 AM »
if it wasn't for Jeff there would be no racing in New Jersey you fucking idiot.  The man has spent millions he deserves a casino.

    ABSOLUTELY!!   ngc3 ngc3 GREAT AMBASSADOR to the sport. And what he did after the Tioga fires was heroic!!
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I know what he's done but why does that earn him a casino dipshit?
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Harness Racing / Re: Brett Beckwith
« Last post by Lockedin with Pace on Today at 11:39:47 AM »
Art Stafford Jr started listing his wife and 2 kids as owners last year.
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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 11:39:29 AM »
I've heard dozens of interviews with older trainers saying they used to race for $1500 purses and are thrilled to race for big money now. They're making great money.
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