Here’s my hot take, these guys know that Mark is a great guy and how much he has done for the sport, but he rejected their homosexual advances and now their brains don’t work anymore so all they can do is post on a harness website suggesting that he resign

Don't be Jelly. No one here wants to break up your love triangle. It is lovely how Poser 2, G, & Paintbrush love Ford.

No Mike Hunt on plop. That's surprising

Burke has a two year Gimpanzee he thinks is his best trotter since Mission Brief. Carbon Fiber won the KYSS final at Oak Grove in track record time.

I've been working with VIP Stable for over 2 years and now I'm up to around 10 horses owning 5% on most.  1% isn't enough for me but 5% feels like I have skin in the game.  I've owned as much as 14% of a horse and that was a great ride when he was racing well.  You definitely can't expect to make money but it sure is nice when you do receive an ACH payment.  VIP has bottom claimer horses (I avoid them at all costs after I bought in big on 1 and he was injured and retired after 1 start) all the way up to top level invitational horses with some young sire stake horses.  I've certainly had fun and I currently own some high level horses that I probably overpaid on and some I got cheap during their owner auctions where owners can sell their shares to the highest bidder.

Bills are as expected with the occasional shock vet bill but you pay 100% of the bills and only get 85% of the proceeds.  When you throw in shipping fees, it cuts another few points off.  Both the 2 year olds I bought in on this year have been busts so far but fingers crossed they turn it around.

Here’s an email I got about 10 years ago, when with VIP:

The billing we do is not at all like billing you would receive as the owner of your own horse!  Given you have some horses on your own, you do have some level of understanding that our other Partners might not.... BUT, keep in mind that billing an individual owner is NOT the same as our Partnership billing.  To bill as many as 100 horses and 200 partners, we must standardize our bills or we would never got bills to Partners on time!

You ask about shipping charges....In order to to get our billing out on a timely basis, we generally charge the same for each trip.  There may be times when the charges are less when more than one of VIP's horse's ship together, but there are also times when the actual charges are more because we ship with a private shipper instead of the trainer.

You also asked about vet charges on trainer's bill.  The September bill from John Butenschoen is attached.  Some of our trainers have such costs, some don't.

Best Regards,
Ed


And my response after getting the trainer’s bill:

Thank you for sending me JB's training bill.

Please explain how the vet charges and equipment purchases of $443 and $51 (total $494) were charged twice.
They were already included in the $2,200 training bill in line 1 and then again in line 2 as a separate item.

Per what you sent me, John's training bill is $55/day x 30 or 31 days, plus $75 in WC. 
This amounts to $1725 for Sept and $1780 for Oct.
Yet the invoices show $2200.

If this has been going on month after month, then we have a serious situation of double billing here.

Hawthorne's death was inevitable, all in part due to Tim Carey. Now, of course he wants money to keep paying his high-ranking executives, their perks, car payments, etc. Thankfully the Judge put a stop to that. All you heard from Carey was about all the strategic partners they were negotiating with, collaborating with, to build a casino. In the end, there wasn't one. Nobody wanted to do business with him. Leading up AND THROUGHOUT the entire bankruptcy, all you heard from Carey, and his corporate mouthpiece was that they were in a very good position for moving forward. Delusional or misrepresenting, doesn't matter. He hurt and damaged the horsemen. Now you have hundreds of horses and people on the backstretch who have to get out. Thankfully the buyer is being cooperative, and so are others. But all this happened because of Tim Carey.