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Many great race horses talked about but for me it was the great French mare UN DE MAI who was the best at a  time of some other great mares like Fresh yankee who battled with un de mai,    On the pacing side i would go with Roses are RED or handle with care.

Truly one of the greats.
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Delmonica Hanover-Del Miller
USTA Horse Of The Year-1974.
Named USHWA Divisonal Champion at age two, three, four, and five.
2nd both heats of 1972 Hambo to Super Bowl.
In 1974 won France's Prix d'Amerique against the best trotters
Europe had to offer.
In 1973 and 1974 won the Roosevelt International againt the best trotters the World had to offer.
World Champion at three and four.
Dam of Hambo co-winner Park Avenue Joe, and World Champion Delmegan.

Yes I am old, and yes I saw her race many times.

 tmbz1

Forgot about her. Thanks for the reminder.
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 09:18:24 AM »
finally somebody gets it
   Howard's laughing all the way to the bank.  ngc3 ngc3
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Harness Racing / Re: Take it with a grain of salt
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 09:17:23 AM »
   pockrtrocketwinne r  sounds like another bogus SCM account
     tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Or he would be nothing without PED's

   He clearly only uses legal PED's.
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Harness Racing / Re: Take it with a grain of salt
« Last post by Sakit on Today at 09:10:12 AM »
Yes, they were not well raised. tmbz1
exactly
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Sakit on Today at 09:09:33 AM »
1. His deceased wife handled the bills.
2. He doesn't care if he's the listed owner... has 1/2 dozen handshake agreements ... does not care about money ..he'll still be in the pictures. 
3. He can delay any crim action forever... no risk there...
He's got next to zero to worry bout.

jmmvhmfo
finally somebody gets it
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Harness Racing / Re: Take it with a grain of salt
« Last post by Calhoun on Today at 09:08:41 AM »
it tells you a lot about a person when they use foul language
Yes, they were not well raised. tmbz1
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Or he would be nothing without PED's
you have to admit he’s a great trainer. He doesn’t have 300+ horses for nothing.
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Harness Racing / Re: Distance Variety?
« Last post by Calhoun on Today at 09:07:46 AM »
I don't know about Cumberland but in general I don't think shorter races on a 1/2 mile track are a good idea. 3 turns and 1.5 miles... ok but what's the point?

I suppose at Hoosier and Mohawk you could run 1 1/16 races or a 3 turn 1.5 mile.

The one that make sense to me is to run 1.25 mile races on 5/8 tracks... Two full laps and an in front of the  grandstand start.

my useless 2c
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