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Harness Racing / Re: Well, I've seen it all now
« Last post by PineHurstPacer on Today at 01:49:12 AM »R. Wrenn went completely inside the last 2 pylons offstride at the Meadows and didn't placed because Ray ran him over
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Harness Racing / Re: Well, I've seen it all now« Last post by PineHurstPacer on Today at 01:49:12 AM »R. Wrenn went completely inside the last 2 pylons offstride at the Meadows and didn't placed because Ray ran him over
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Harness Racing / Re: Well, I've seen it all now« Last post by SeattleSlew on Today at 01:43:01 AM »Regardless he was off the track . Even Gabe said a clear pylon infraction. Just another 1st time for everything!!! Exactly: In harness racing, a horse that leaves the racetrack by going inside the pylons for a meaningful distance is not automatically completely disqualified (taken out of the purse entirely) unless specific conditions are met, but it will face a mandatory "placing" penalty (relegation). Even if the horse does not gain any ground or improve its position, traveling inside the pylons for an extended distance violates the rules of the track and compromises the safety and integrity of the race.Under the standard model adopted by major racing jurisdictions and the United States Trotting Association (USTA), the consequences depend entirely on how many consecutive pylons the horse passes on the inside while on stride:Inside 2 consecutive pylons: The offending horse must be placed behind any horses that are "lapped on" (finishing right next to/close behind) to it at the wire.Inside 3 or more consecutive pylons: If a horse goes inside three or more consecutive pylons—which constitutes your scenario of a "meaningful distance"—it is a major infraction. The judges will issue a severe placing penalty, typically ordering the horse to be placed last in the official standings.Note on Exceptions: The only times a horse will not be penalized for going inside the pylons is if the driver was forced inside due to interference from another horse/driver, or if the horse was on a break (galloping) and the driver went inside to safely get the horse out of the way of the field without gaining an advantage.The Governing Rules and Rule NumbersHarness racing is governed by state racing commissions, which typically align their rulebooks with the model rules of the Association of Racing Commissioners International (ARCI) and the USTA. The specific rule numbers addressing this include:Model Pylon Rule (Standardized): Across major racing jurisdictions (such as the Ontario Racing Commission/AGCO, Pennsylvania, and New York), this standard language is commonly codified under the track's specific "Pylon Rule" section.Indiana: Covered under 71 IAC 4-3-15 (Pylons).New Jersey: Covered under N.J. Admin. Code § 13:71-20.25 (Pylons).Kentucky: Covered under 811 KAR 1:075, Section 2 (Racing and track rules).I 3
Harness Racing / Re: Southwinds Breeding farm to close by '28« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 01:11:55 AM »Yea, their sports betting is really “crushing it”! Time to buy? market sentiment-bullish. 4
Harness Racing / Re: Southwinds Breeding farm to close by '28« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 12:23:12 AM »Southwind is a beautiful property but the farm manager is an ass. Ask any shipper who was asked to pick up or drop off a horse. They also mainly function as a stallion station buying questionable studs and not supporting them with mares. The NJ racing program is questionable due to the fact that every state around them has slots and NJ politicians are known to be corrupt. Only 2 states that have racing have rejected racinos. NJ and Illinois. Also the 2 states that have the most former politicians in prison. Maybe a coincidence??? I think the owners of the mares decide whom to breed to. If these are questionable stallions to begin with, then it is probably a cause of the problem by breeding in New Jersey. 5
Harness Racing / Re: Southwinds Breeding farm to close by '28« Last post by Equus Caballus on Today at 12:12:43 AM »NJ is fine. Their breeding programs are as good as any and their racing attracts more gamblers than any. Plus, their sports betting is crushing it. Yea, their sports betting is really “crushing it”! ![]() 6
Political Roundtable / Re: Is the US-Iran ‘war’ over yet?« Last post by rainman2 on July 01, 2026, 11:56:26 PM »Now, frighteningly disturbing to say the least Is the war over? Frighteningly disturbing to say the least. 7
The O.T. / Re: and the jackass« Last post by rainman2 on July 01, 2026, 11:54:24 PM »Disturbing to say the least All I see is someone (Andrew) going off the deep end because he can't handle when people post negatively about DJT! And then has to go off on a tangent moaning, groaning, whiling, crying, and complaining about it! And Andrew 'proclaims' himself a "real man"? ![]() Disturbing? YES IT IS! 8
Harness Racing / Re: Southwinds Breeding farm to close by '28« Last post by AgentQ on July 01, 2026, 11:37:43 PM »Jersey is down to two years if they don't get a Casino. It's really that simple. And I don't like their chances as I see this latest news as hush money to keep them quiet until they just fold up shop. I mean there is no breeding business to speak of, all the trainers with money behind them will be in kentucky by 2027/28 so the game is basically dead.
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Harness Racing / Re: Save America« Last post by AgentQ on July 01, 2026, 11:35:03 PM »You can add him to the long list of animals that guy breaks down. His management of horses may well be the worst I've seen and I've seen plenty.
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Harness Racing / Re: Name the 3 greatest horses you saw race live in person« Last post by The Unstable on July 01, 2026, 11:31:39 PM »Cam Fella
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