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« Last post by hasbeen on Today at 02:57:35 PM »
Burned down in 1977. Raced harness meets there throughout the 60s and 70s. Mile oval. The site where the track, barns, and parking lots were became a shopping center, then part of that same land is where the Wind Creek casino now sits. East Hazel Crest, Harvey, and Homewood are all within 2 blocks of one another near 175th and Halsted aves.
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I do. Was never there for the races, but I drove by the place in the mid 70's. About what, a half-hour outside Chicago, I think. I remember when the grandstand burned down.
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« Last post by Jctoronto on Today at 02:51:23 PM »
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BTW, I was there when the horse sold. While I believe there were live bidders, I don't know who else was on the horse. I was very surprised this horse went for $500k. Talented 2yo, didn't come back at 3, and wasn't showing being a top 3yo. Whatever they were thinking, they just got back a nice chunk of change.
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I made my bones on NY racing. Since then, the Meadowlands has been my livelihood since the 80's. It's now not my exclusive focus and play. Setting aside CAW, takeout, and all that, I think Gural, management, and the race office, are fighting a losing battle. You are fighting the horse population and the purses/structure you can offer, and everything that goes along with that.
Bottom line, for the most part, they are offering a diluted, watered down product. It's a double-edge sword and vicious merry-go-round. They need/want more races, more race dates, and the more you offer, the lower the quality of the product.
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« Last post by GOAT on Today at 02:37:11 PM »
Does anyone remember the old Washington Park in Homewood Illinois?
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I thought $500k for Fallout was ludicrous. For anyone. It's not like he was going to be the ML favorite for the Progress. He was 20-1! Tight photo too, LOL. Easy to say after the fact that, but anyone can be a Monday morning QB. Luck or not. The check clears. LOL.
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You keep repeating that, great for Trump.
Second time you copied and pasted that shit in this forum:
https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=82302.msg1237026#msg1237026
Will he give any $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to you, after YOU losing out on the DJT stock that you bought tons of.
Fucking plummeting man, low double douche digits.
What about Fatso not being a Coward and helping the tens of thousands of homeless veterans.
Someone had to serve, surely not Bone Spurs and his goofy faggy out children.
Keep America safe, not bone spurs, no definitely not the felonious bone spurs.
Trump's a billionaire, and he'll keep making more billions, you, you're fucked.
But it's great to see you sucking his asshole out every day.
Please don't stop, we love it!
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« Last post by Calhoun on Today at 01:50:11 PM »
3rd person. Automatic douche
Welcome back to my flock... My Dear Pigeon Jim. Why hate Calhoun?
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« Last post by toothman on Today at 01:46:25 PM »
I wasn't comparing the Remmen brothers to cheaters of today, and I wasn't speaking to horsemanship, training ability, etc. If it wasn't obvious to you, I was speaking to the protocol of listing a trainer. Nothing more.
I've long said the problem is deep-rooted. Years ago, NYRA and/or New York State Gaming Commission caught Rick Dutrow-----while he was on suspension. He got days, the horses stayed exactly where they were, and raced under his assistant's name. But, they caught Dutrow for talking to his "assistant" trainer (employees) about the horses, talking to his owners, billing his owners, receiving the monies (yes, his owners paid his bill knowing full well he was on suspension), and so on. They caught him because they looked! Our sport is where it is because too many authorities, governing bodies, etc., don't look, and when they do, they turn a blind eye to it. Period.
It’s the age old vicious cycle. Powers that be are so afraid of bad publicity, they don’t look anywhere that could create it.
And within the business, there are no secrets, but no one wants to be a “rat”
And here we are.
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