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Harness Racing / Re: Howard Taylor Equine advocacy alliance
« Last post by bond on Today at 11:58:01 AM »Plopsters are right--Gural picks and chooses who he bans--the FBI was like a smorgasbord-he just picked out which ones he wanted-and which ones he didnt need.
That is also my biggest concern and would never happen with HISA. No matter how big or how many horses you have in Tbred racing you get booted--like BoB Baffert-they don't come much bigger- he was outed--for FAR FAR less what Mr Burke and others were doing in his barn from what Im reading--FACT.
If that was Baffert and they got him for an EPO mimetic-it would be curtains for him.
So Plopsters are on the ball with this one--if the top brass running the Sport are corrupt--they need to go first.
Im very surprised the NJ Racing commission( Tom Salerno and sara Ben David) sat on their hands while the evidence of PED use was laid out in front of them. Even blood samples sent to Hong Kong-showed evidence of Blood manipulation from these horses.
In unsealed FBI wiretaps between Fishman and prominent trainers (like Jeff Gillis), they openly discussed how they believed the drug was safely undetectable. Fishman explicitly boasted on the wiretaps that if investigators pulled blood 12 hours after an injection, the horse would test "safe".
The Hong Kong Jockey Club's advanced testing utterly destroyed this theory, proving that the drug's chemical signature left a detectable biological footprint far longer than Fishman realized.
So in a way- Engblom was a victim because it took the spotlight away from the Fishman and FBI case-so they booted him to make it look like they actually do something. Remember people using EPO or mimetics(same thing)-get a lifetime ban at certain tracks(egHarrahs, Monticello) and here we have trainers buying 50 doses or more-and are walking around like nothing happened. THIS has got to stop-and Im happy to see questions in the Howard Taylor case--OCT 12 is a date I read that Taylor AND Gural their trainers have to submit records--that will be interesting to say the least.
Its interesting that in the Taylor defamation case-Howard is relying on the fact that EPO and BB3 are chemically and structurally different. He will lose that case if im not mistaken because BB3 Acts as a workaround. Despite having a completely different chemical shape, it is designed to activate the EXACT same EPOR cellular pathway.
It triggers the SAME BIOLOGICAL result—surges in red blood cells and highly elevated oxygenation—without using the actual EPO molecule-so that is intent to cheat and a PED in my language and most other peoples also.
That is also my biggest concern and would never happen with HISA. No matter how big or how many horses you have in Tbred racing you get booted--like BoB Baffert-they don't come much bigger- he was outed--for FAR FAR less what Mr Burke and others were doing in his barn from what Im reading--FACT.
If that was Baffert and they got him for an EPO mimetic-it would be curtains for him.
So Plopsters are on the ball with this one--if the top brass running the Sport are corrupt--they need to go first.
Im very surprised the NJ Racing commission( Tom Salerno and sara Ben David) sat on their hands while the evidence of PED use was laid out in front of them. Even blood samples sent to Hong Kong-showed evidence of Blood manipulation from these horses.
In unsealed FBI wiretaps between Fishman and prominent trainers (like Jeff Gillis), they openly discussed how they believed the drug was safely undetectable. Fishman explicitly boasted on the wiretaps that if investigators pulled blood 12 hours after an injection, the horse would test "safe".
The Hong Kong Jockey Club's advanced testing utterly destroyed this theory, proving that the drug's chemical signature left a detectable biological footprint far longer than Fishman realized.
So in a way- Engblom was a victim because it took the spotlight away from the Fishman and FBI case-so they booted him to make it look like they actually do something. Remember people using EPO or mimetics(same thing)-get a lifetime ban at certain tracks(egHarrahs, Monticello) and here we have trainers buying 50 doses or more-and are walking around like nothing happened. THIS has got to stop-and Im happy to see questions in the Howard Taylor case--OCT 12 is a date I read that Taylor AND Gural their trainers have to submit records--that will be interesting to say the least.
Its interesting that in the Taylor defamation case-Howard is relying on the fact that EPO and BB3 are chemically and structurally different. He will lose that case if im not mistaken because BB3 Acts as a workaround. Despite having a completely different chemical shape, it is designed to activate the EXACT same EPOR cellular pathway.
It triggers the SAME BIOLOGICAL result—surges in red blood cells and highly elevated oxygenation—without using the actual EPO molecule-so that is intent to cheat and a PED in my language and most other peoples also.
