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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Trigger on Today at 06:23:39 PM »
This one here, big fatso friend! 

O'Brien awards,  ngc3 Moreau won 10 years in a row  ngc3

Tracks are private business...they don't want you there and they're not violating your civil rights.

Fuck you!

The gamblers are tired of you, guess what?

Fuck you!

Honest horseman and owners are tired of you?

Fuck you!

There are 2 kinds of people, good and bad.  It's that simple.  I think the bad should drop dead!   

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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Grandstand Handicapper on Today at 06:16:06 PM »
Its the old, where there's smoke there's usually fire. With Ford, it's two-fold: one, he gave horses to other trainers to train. On the surface you might give him a pass but if you dig deeper the guys he elected to use turned out to be some of the guys implicated in the Seth Fishman fiasco. At minimum that's a bad look, especially if you're the president of the Horsemen's Association. Others might take a more viscerable view and come to the conclusion that there was willfull intent to use those guys to win substantial purse money while technically avoiding any responsibility. Add to that the reputation of his training facility being the haven for dubious trainers that continually strike at a unfathomable win rate throughout New York, especially Yonkers and you can see why many are not fond of him. As for Howard, I think there exists a new sentiment that it's time to deal with this guy. And outside of cutting off CAW, this is the single biggest reason why so many owners have given up. For decades they race against guys like Taylor who only supports high percentage trainers and will move a horse in an instant.

That all makes sense to me. Where there's smoke there's fire, very true many times. Perhaps even most of the time. But here's the way I see this when you break it down. I am not saying I would give Ford a pass or not. However, here is what I am saying. One, as far as who he selected to give horses to train, specifically Jeff Gillis, I am not condeming Ford for that unless we start condeming all of Gillis' other owners. I don't see any governing body or authority taking action against Ford because he chose Gillis. As far as Gills, the guy won what, 5 or 6 O'Brien awards? For several years he was a top trainer. Many people sent him horses. Now he gets nailed for the Fishman aspect, and I am all for banning him. Good riddance.

Two, are people saying Ford was in on it? He knew and was involved in the purchase of illegal drugs? He had knowledge, involvment, whatever else? Great, prove it. I am not talking about what some arm-chair desparado says or claims on some internet forum. Prove it. Let's see who takes action. Let's wait for all the excuses when nothing ever happens to Ford on this. Now, should he be held to a higher standard as the President of the SBOANJ. Legally, no. However, personally, I would want to see a higher standard. The optics are bad, without question, but I am not going to ban a guy or ruin his life for optics. If every owner wants to leave him because of this, so be it. Ford will bear the consequences of his decisions and actions.

Three, as far the trainers who stable at his training center, I agree. I have a problem with that. Especially since he is the President. If you let criminals stable at your training center, even if you knew nothing, it still is reflective of your professional decisions and how you run your business. I don't know how many trainers he has there total, and how many got indicted, charged, etc. But more than one is a problem in my mind, and a pattern is even worse. I know people have shared this with him. If a governing body or authority wants to do something about it, I am all for it. But if it doesn't happen, I am not going to lower myself and buy into mud-slinging and BS claims made by people who IMO have an obvious conflict and vendetta against someone-----whether it's about this, or other issues. I have people here on ignore, so I don't even read their BS, yet alone participate in it. Thanks. I appreciate your comments and perspective.
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Harness Racing / Re: The King Cunt Reminder Thread....
« Last post by Ignorance Is Bliss on Today at 06:07:16 PM »
Now back to "Gonna contact Goshen PD" King Cunt. To avoid doxxing the pathetic piece of pond scum. All the answers as to who he really is can be found in this link. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201000000*/barntowire.com
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Harness Racing / Re: The Clegg family
« Last post by MCR on Today at 06:02:45 PM »
Is it possible that a horse like Dunkin and Janelle granny could have jumped started a good couple years run and allowed them to buy a bunch of horses?? I'd say yes. But small minded people probably think no.   Did he have horses for D racing? Yes. So have other guys and are they all getting licenses revoked etc?
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Harness Racing / Re: Fun facts comparing handles at different tracks
« Last post by Lance on Today at 06:02:30 PM »
I remember comparing handles at Yonkers and BigM one weekend. If memory serves me correctly the handle at Yonkers was much larger.
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Harness Racing / Re: The King Cunt Reminder Thread....
« Last post by Ignorance Is Bliss on Today at 06:02:09 PM »
  You seem to change your name every week to hide  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Changing the screen name is hiding? You truly are an incredibly special kind of stupid. Now, what is Pacer 2s real name??? We'll wait...
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Ignorance Is Bliss on Today at 05:59:35 PM »
Unemployed Shit Shoveler =/= Horseman  angbk angbk

Trigger, please tell Medicaid Mike please.

One minute to your promised iggy!!!  ngc3
Gonna cry to the admins again?
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Harness Racing / Re: The Clegg family
« Last post by Ignorance Is Bliss on Today at 05:58:41 PM »
Bullshit

You just waited until events occurred and did a lot of Copy N Paste. That's it. Nothing else.

Nobody in important positions or the press or the regulators credits you with a fucking single thing publicly.

As an aside your Youtube Video Short from the 22nd has ZERO (0) (NIL) views.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

How is that even possible?   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Ya drip.

In three minutes you're supposed to iggy me again Cunt. Do you need glasses? WRONG AGAIN KING CUNT!!!!  ngc3
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Calhoun on Today at 05:56:04 PM »
Unemployed Shit Shoveler =/= Horseman  angbk angbk

Trigger, please tell Medicaid Mike please. 

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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 05:53:48 PM »
Petrelli cant hold a job   ngc3 ngc3
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