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Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« on: August 02, 2023, 05:49:30 PM »
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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2023, 06:26:41 PM »
He's hurt the game for his own personal gain.  He could care less about Harness Racing at the Meadowlands. All he cares that he bought a Casino license for pennies on the dollar and his total investment is guaranteed by the State of NJ.  The Meadowlands will become a parking lot when he gets the full casino license in the near future.  Why were only Harness Trainers targeted in the FBI Investigations?  Because Gural has no T-breds!  Navarro and Servais only got lumped in because of Nick Surick and Oaks.  Fact is Gural hated Surick and despised Oaks & Allard.  He was going to do what ever he had to to eliminate them and everyone else was just extra.  He contracted Five Stones and sent them on a mission to go after Surick, Oaks, & Allard.  Wanna beat the competition?  Eliminate them and you no longer have to worry about it!  Oaks beat him yrs ago with a trotting filly and then told Jeff to Fuck Off.  Jeff's vindictive and basically set out to ruin Oaks life along with others he didn't like.  Notice none of his trainers were investigated or even questioned.  You all are getting played by Gural and his band of minions.  Have fun.....

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2023, 06:28:50 PM »
It is very simple. Do you want a track owner to clean up the sport from druggies and drivers that give courteous drops into holes they should close? Or do you want an owner who has done and continues to try to protect the gambling fans? Is Gural perfect no. But he is light years better than other track owners that only care about their casinos and could care less who is cheating on the track. I believe the reason Gural has a shortage of horses because the cheaters can’t cheat there.

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2023, 06:34:54 PM »
He cleaned up the game so his trainers could win more money! 

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2023, 06:42:11 PM »
You guys are clueless. You think Gural does what he does so his trainers can make more money? Do you have any idea how wealthy this man is? Do you know how he made many, many millions outside of the Meadowlands? He is still losing a ton of money keeping the place open even with sports betting. If you are going to trash another human being at least deal with facts.

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2023, 06:53:58 PM »
Let Gural give the canadian track a try, woodbine is a shitshow, boring af

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2023, 06:57:06 PM »
It's not about the money! It's about the press and accolades the winning brings!  73cv.2

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2023, 07:00:05 PM »
You guys are clueless. You think Gural does what he does so his trainers can make more money? Do you have any idea how wealthy this man is? Do you know how he made many, many millions outside of the Meadowlands? He is still losing a ton of money keeping the place open even with sports betting. If you are going to trash another human being at least deal with facts.

LOL - How did he make his money?  He inherited it!  As for losing money it's only on paper!  He cries broke to get the NJ Subsidy Money.  If he would have negotiated the deal correct with Fan Duel he would be swimming in money.  Fact is he's a baphoon that didn't negotiate good and didn't get a piece of the internet gambling.  All those cars parked on the river from NY gambling doesn't do shit for Meadowlands because he gave that up in negotiations.  Only money gambled on site gets to Medowlands.  Now don't cry to hard because Jeffy has his money backed by the State.  He can't lose no matter what he puts in!  His investors lose it all if there is failure.  Jeffy can pull out any losses at 100% backed by the State.  That part he got right in negotiations.  He screwed his investors but he's all good. 

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2023, 08:54:31 PM »
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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2023, 09:26:18 PM »
he brings no class to the game. remember the old saying money cant buy you class?
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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2023, 12:13:39 AM »
You guys are clueless. You think Gural does what he does so his trainers can make more money? Do you have any idea how wealthy this man is? Do you know how he made many, many millions outside of the Meadowlands? He is still losing a ton of money keeping the place open even with sports betting. If you are going to trash another human being at least deal with facts.

I agree with you about Gural not being as bad for horse racing as people are saying.

He did not make millions for himself, though. He was born into generational wealth and was handed a spot in his family business through no form of merit. One could argue he has destroyed wealth more than he has created it, given what he started with. JB Pritzker-esque

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2023, 12:21:23 AM »
Horrible dresser / Horrible Negotiator / Zero Class / Zero Ethics / Spoiled Little Brat / Trust Fund Baby

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2023, 01:17:08 AM »
he brings no class to the game. remember the old saying money cant buy you class?

Quite a few people in the real world have the same issues (see many of today's politicians)!

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2023, 01:18:32 AM »
He has done neither.

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Re: Has Jeff gural hurt or helped harness racing
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2023, 05:33:19 AM »
Well if it wasn't for him there would be no Meadowlands no Tioga or Vernon where would you race with out them he doesn't need money he has lots been racing and breeding for years no one else stepped in to help racing in N.J. but him you can not like him but with out him there would be nothing.

 

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