Oh how the mighty have fallen! From one time HOTY to this for TBJF?

[wizardofoz]

RACE 10 - Harrah`s Philadelphia - PA - June 26, 2026
Conditions: Fillies & Mares Winners Over $10,000 Lifetime Post Positions Assigned by Earnings Last 5 Sts
Gait: PacePurse: 16,000 Class: FMW/O 10K Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 3:43 PM
 
PP    Horse   Med   2026 North America YTD    Driver    Trainer   ML   Claim
    Equip   Sts    W    P    S    Time    Earnings         Stable   Odds   Price
1    Avf Claire   L    8     2     2     1     1:51.2M     $29135     Geo. Napolitano Jr    Per Engblom       
2    Strutsville       14     3     2     2     1:51.2F     $41160     Patrick Ryder    Ron Coyne Jr       
3    Sweetnikkilou A
  FOR: 4 0-0-1 $6984       4     2     0     0     1:50.2F     $14930(i)     Andrew McCarthy    R. Nifty Norman       
4    Elektra A   L    4     1     0     0     1:53.2H     $13180     Tim Tetrick    Enrico Robinson       
5    Gigglingonthebeac h   L    5     2     2     1     1:50.1F     $24125     Troy Beyer    Juan Cano       
6    Twin B Joe Fresh   L    2     0     0     0     Q1:51.2M     $4320     Dexter Dunn    Chris Ryder       
   (i) International Activity

[AgentQ]

RACE 10 - Harrah`s Philadelphia - PA - June 26, 2026
Conditions: Fillies & Mares Winners Over $10,000 Lifetime Post Positions Assigned by Earnings Last 5 Sts
Gait: PacePurse: 16,000 Class: FMW/O 10K Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 3:43 PM
 
PP    Horse   Med   2026 North America YTD    Driver    Trainer   ML   Claim
    Equip   Sts    W    P    S    Time    Earnings         Stable   Odds   Price
1    Avf Claire   L    8     2     2     1     1:51.2M     $29135     Geo. Napolitano Jr    Per Engblom       
2    Strutsville       14     3     2     2     1:51.2F     $41160     Patrick Ryder    Ron Coyne Jr       
3    Sweetnikkilou A
  FOR: 4 0-0-1 $6984       4     2     0     0     1:50.2F     $14930(i)     Andrew McCarthy    R. Nifty Norman       
4    Elektra A   L    4     1     0     0     1:53.2H     $13180     Tim Tetrick    Enrico Robinson       
5    Gigglingonthebeac h   L    5     2     2     1     1:50.1F     $24125     Troy Beyer    Juan Cano       
6    Twin B Joe Fresh   L    2     0     0     0     Q1:51.2M     $4320     Dexter Dunn    Chris Ryder       
   (i) International Activity

Never thought I'd lose respect for Ryder.

[Laag]

Odd thread. Pretty sure its just to get her a race before the stakes races coming up at the Big M. She raced 2x this year after 8 months off and needs it

[Harness racer]

Odd thread. Pretty sure its just to get her a race before the stakes races coming up at the Big M. She raced 2x this year after 8 months off and needs it

Agree.  It’s a qualifier that comes with a pay check.  Giver her a little confidence boost and have her fight for next stakes race.

[Laag]

Agree.  It’s a qualifier that comes with a pay check.  Giver her a little confidence boost and have her fight for next stakes race.

And if she struggles in this race then thats probably a wrap on career but obviously she deserves a chance to get her fitness turned around

Sometimes mares start to lose their power at 6. See Test of Faith, Lyons Sentinel, Cavairt Ally

[SDST2009]

Agree.  It’s a qualifier that comes with a pay check.  Giver her a little confidence boost and have her fight for next stakes race.

Exactly.

[Harness racer]

And if she struggles in this race then thats probably a wrap on career but obviously she deserves a chance to get her fitness turned around

Sometimes mares start to lose their power at 6. See Test of Faith, Lyons Sentinel, Cavairt Ally

That may be a reason also.  See if she’s still got it or not.  If she can’t beat these it should be off to the breeding shed!

[Racetime]

Miki And Minnie is in at Plainridge going for $27,500 just to get a race before the next stake race.

[Bitter Truth]

Nice catch Racetime. This is a really ignorant thread. "Lose respect for Ryder."
Never had much in the 1st place it sounds like to me. Horse obviously wasn't
right at Mohawk. Give him a chance to figure it out. Sure it could be she's had
enough but the insinuation that he is mistreating the horse [which he co-owns]
that has made tons of $$ for him is absurd and misguided.

[Sweet]

These f'ing idiot are jealous of a horse made $3.4mil.

Won almost 75% of her races.

Just low life garbage, you couldn't come close in your lifetime what she did in a handful of years.

Loser bitches.

She falters, whatever, wish her well, don't, retire her, breed her....she's made.

Those that speak like you're above her and her team sitting in judgement are sh!t, laughable barely humans, ya need help and work on your own success or name them 

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

He's a hall of fame trainer like I am a brain surgeon

[Bitter Truth]

Better turn the scalpel on yourself then, because something is clearly askew.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Better turn the scalpel on yourself then, because something is clearly askew.

Hall of Fame trainers need to have big wins with pacers and TROTTERS. Name a trotter that Ryder has done good with. Same goes for his asshole buddy PELLING.

[Bitter Truth]

Mystical Sunshine. Apparently actual HOF voters don't share your criteria.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Mystical Sunshine. Apparently actual HOF voters don't share your criteria.

It's all politics. I can name many trainers that belong in the HOF before that down under piece of shit. Ryder, Daley, Norman, Pelling, Croghan are all a bunch of cheating scumbags taught by Brian Pelling