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wizardofoz

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CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« on: May 27, 2026, 11:41:42 PM »
At $20,000 a pop, he bred 140 mares in 2024 and 137 mares in 2025. They made over $5.5 million already without a single horse on the track yet!         
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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2026, 11:46:15 PM »
At $20,000 a pop, he bred 140 markers in 2024 and 137 mares in 2025. They made over $5 million already without a single horse on the track yet!         

So BJ may never leave Canada after all!

Set a 7/8 track size mile record, retire undefeated, makes sense.

Pots of gold at the end of his flawless, safe rainbow!

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« Last Edit: May 28, 2026, 12:02:36 AM by Sweet »

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2026, 07:39:52 AM »
Please show your work.
How did you come up with 5.5 million?
I am just an old horse trainer still going around in circles. Sometimes Fast. Sometimes Half-Fast.

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2026, 07:52:32 AM »
Please show your work.
How did you come up with 5.5 million?
get yer calc out on yer new phone  ngc3

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2026, 05:35:13 PM »
yup
thats the way new stallions work
same applied to tds and perfect sting
breeders and buyers want the shinny new toy/sire
when the 2 yr olds hit the track only then do people k now if they made the right decision
but as you say breeders have already been paid for first and second crops
its the third and fourth crop that don't  get determined until those first crop have raced


wizardofoz

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2026, 08:35:19 PM »
Please show your work.
How did you come up with 5.5 million?
Are you serious? Multiply 277 mares bred by the $20,000 stud fee per breeding. See what you get.

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2026, 08:37:03 PM »
At $20,000 a pop, he bred 140 mares in 2024 and 137 mares in 2025. They made over $5.5 million already without a single horse on the track yet!         

Mares bred and live foals are two different numbers. Only get paid on live foals. Still doing alright.

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2026, 09:20:44 PM »
Mares bred and live foals are two different numbers. Only get paid on live foals. Still doing alright.

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2026, 09:53:39 PM »
Are you serious? Multiply 277 mares bred by the $20,000 stud fee per breeding. See what you get.
Yes I am serious.
Stud fees are paid on life foals only. (Stand and suck)
Not all mares bred get in foal.
Not all mares carry to term.
Not all mares deliver a live foal.
Of the 140 mares bred in 2024 to foal in 2025, there has of today only been 104 registrations. There will most likely be a few late registrations, but not many.
Sometimes a top driver is given a free breeding(s).
Sometimes the trainer is given a free breeding(s).
Confederate is owned by "The Confederate Syndicate".
Each syndicate member is allowed so many breedings per share. He may use them on his own mares or make deals with them.
After breeding many mares, for many years, and at several farms, I have found that the advertised stud fee is just like the dealer sticker on a car. Only a starting point.
I am just an old horse trainer still going around in circles. Sometimes Fast. Sometimes Half-Fast.

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #9 on: Today at 09:11:23 AM »
Yes I am serious.
Stud fees are paid on life foals only. (Stand and suck)
Not all mares bred get in foal.
Not all mares carry to term.
Not all mares deliver a live foal.
Of the 140 mares bred in 2024 to foal in 2025, there has of today only been 104 registrations. There will most likely be a few late registrations, but not many.
Sometimes a top driver is given a free breeding(s).
Sometimes the trainer is given a free breeding(s).
Confederate is owned by "The Confederate Syndicate".
Each syndicate member is allowed so many breedings per share. He may use them on his own mares or make deals with them.
After breeding many mares, for many years, and at several farms, I have found that the advertised stud fee is just like the dealer sticker on a car. Only a starting point.
tmbz1

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Re: CONFEDERATE's yearling are here in 2026!
« Reply #10 on: Today at 10:44:55 AM »
The individuals that I have seen from him are very impressive specimens!! I  expect to see impressive sales figures when the sales start!

 

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