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We need fixed odds ....NOW
« on: May 16, 2026, 11:28:54 PM »
Race 12 at md
6 goes to the gate even money
Goes off 1 to 5.
Thats 80% less expected value for a gambler
This is on a Saturday night at the mecca meadowlands

And we wonder why the sport is dying. No one is going to bet real money getting an 80% less return than expected

Fixed odds aren't that hard i dont get why no one sees how this is such an easy fix.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2026, 11:31:37 PM by PurpleSheetPicks »

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2026, 11:32:12 PM »
     And it keeps happening over and over again

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2026, 11:39:04 PM »
       Also in that 12th race the exacta went from 15.00 to 13.00 on the off

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2026, 11:45:32 PM »
       Also in that 12th race the exacta went from 15.00 to 13.00 on the off
I'm taking about an 80% differential guy..
10 to 20 percent is one thing
This is 4x as bad
And such an easy fix


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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2026, 11:48:27 PM »
     And it keeps happening over and over again
I've been posting for a while about this at b tracks
Never expected 80% changes at meadowlands on a Saturday night

All the problems this sport has pail in comparison to this one
People  bet millions on lottery with a 50% take out, all because they know the payoff. People will bet millions on anything as long as they know the payoffs. People aren't going to bet serious money with this high a fluctuation on return.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2026, 11:31:25 AM »
Race 12 at md
6 goes to the gate even money
Goes off 1 to 5.
Thats 80% less expected value for a gambler
This is on a Saturday night at the mecca meadowlands

And we wonder why the sport is dying. No one is going to bet real money getting an 80% less return than expected

Fixed odds aren't that hard i dont get why no one sees how this is such an easy fix.


  Odds change when people bet.   DUUUUUHH!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2026, 11:46:54 AM »
Race 12 at md
6 goes to the gate even money
Goes off 1 to 5.
Thats 80% less expected value for a gambler
This is on a Saturday night at the mecca meadowlands

And we wonder why the sport is dying. No one is going to bet real money getting an 80% less return than expected

Fixed odds aren't that hard i dont get why no one sees how this is such an easy fix.

    Thats one of the most idiotic ideas I've EVER heard!   You obviously have no clue on how betting works.  How stupid are you??  ngc3 ngc3
« Last Edit: May 17, 2026, 11:53:10 AM by Pacer 2 »

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2026, 11:58:00 AM »


And we wonder why the sport is dying. 
 
   The sport is thriving. Look at the EARNINGS!! ngc3 ngc3

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2026, 12:17:52 PM »
    Thats one of the most idiotic ideas I've EVER heard!   You obviously have no clue on how betting works.  How stupid are you??  ngc3 ngc3


New Jersey does have fixed odds wagering on certain tracks, but you have to be in NJ to wager.

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2026, 12:48:13 PM »
I've been posting for a while about this at b tracks
Never expected 80% changes at meadowlands on a Saturday night

All the problems this sport has pail in comparison to this one
People  bet millions on lottery with a 50% take out, all because they know the payoff. People will bet millions on anything as long as they know the payoffs. People aren't going to bet serious money with this high a fluctuation on return.

If your bets are sharp, the tracks will severely limit you at first then eventually ban you from fixed odds wagering. What would you do then? Lottery?
Pari mutual is the absolute best part of horse gambling
CAWs are what destroyed it.

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2026, 01:20:32 PM »
If your bets are sharp, the tracks will severely limit you at first then eventually ban you from fixed odds wagering. What would you do then? Lottery?
Pari mutual is the absolute best part of horse gambling
CAWs are what destroyed it.
If a track is smart they can use the sharps wisely like books have done for years amd adjust the odds if needed

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2026, 01:52:50 PM »
The value of sharp intel,as you described, is not nearly high enough for a track to keep the sharp on their books. There aren't any legal books left who allow unrestricted sharp sports action.

Any horseplayer who wants a change over to fixed odds has to realize it's a short term play and understand that they will be out of action long term.

In every jurisdiction on earth, books have limited, then banned sharp horse action. So much so that there are Minimum Bet Laws in place in places like Australia where the government has stepped in and forced the books to accept specified minimum bets from the sharps. However, eventually books are able to terminate the sharps there over time.

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2026, 03:23:54 PM »

New Jersey does have fixed odds wagering on certain tracks, but you have to be in NJ to wager.


   What tracks and what company?   I'd like to call them to check that.

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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2026, 03:30:14 PM »
Definitely Monmouth Park because I was there last April and was able to wager fixed odds at the time I made the bet or the regular odds when the race goes off. Bet365 & MonmouthBets.com do online but you have to physically be in NJ when you make the bet. I couldn't make a fixed odds wager on the self-service machines at Monmouth but could with a live teller. It also says you can place fixed odds wagers on Meadowlands T-Breds.

If you watch FanDuel/TVG when they cover Monmouth, they'll have both the regular current odds and fixed odds on the screen.
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Re: We need fixed odds ....NOW
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2026, 03:44:14 PM »
    Thats one of the most idiotic ideas I've EVER heard!   You obviously have no clue on how betting works.  How stupid are you??  ngc3 ngc3

Why do you have to talk in such a condescending way?  You can make your point in a way that doesn’t offend anyone.  And you wonder why you have so many haters on here.
Getting back to the subject of fixed odds, as long as the total of the odds offered are within the expectations of reasonable “take”, it would eliminate any odds changes after the “bell”.

 

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