Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!

[Trigger]

Oh its ok to be corrupt because everyone else is lol.

Pacer 2 thinks harness racing is thriving 

Just not in Florida and California 

He started that thread about what sport is not corrupt.

He, Pacer 2 is USTA all the way - I'll bet on it! 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Attn: all Big M haters, there has and will never be a better track that ever existed that even comes close to comparing to the meadowlands. It’s the Mecca of the sport and will always be. Give Mr. Gural credit for investing in this place because if the big m goes the entire industry will follow. Wise up.

Like some, maybe a few, I've been at the Meadowlands since it opened. Like many, while I am a "supporter" of Gural and what he's trying to do, I do not agree with everything he's done and how he goes about doing various things. I support him getting a casino. I give Gural credit for what he's done at the Meadowlands. I couldn't care less if he-----as people accuse him of-----whines, bitches, moans, etc. However, as it relates to "the product" being offered, the quality, and his position on CAW, I absolutely do not agree with any of what/where he's at. There is another meeting coming up in January on the CAW issue. The last meeting yielded some positive discussion. Whatever the outcome of this next meeting is, I don't know if he will implement any substantial, long-term action step on this or not.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

That's not a surprise. It's kind of like the party you are not invited to, LOL.

[Trigger]

The losers are the supporters and want to bet the BigM  :

He supports cheats, yes, all over his track. 

He allows CAW, yes and it's horrible for the gambler. 

He has been unsuccessful in getting a casino since he started 14 years ago, yes. 

Are gamblers and honest horseman, horses getting fucked at the BigM, yes. 

Case fucking closed scumbags!   

[dougie]

    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

No doubt that harness racing has a lot of cheaters/crooks within it's ranks. But after watching the NFL so far, it's hard to believe that the NFL's referees aren't corrupt, blind, or just stupid. LOL!

[Trigger]

No doubt that harness racing has a lot of cheaters/crooks within it's ranks. But after watching the NFL so far, it's hard to believe that the NFL's referees aren't corrupt, blind, or just stupid. LOL!

So are you getting enough corruption, blind, stupid shit in your life because if not I'm sure there's more out there you can find besides football and racing. 

[Trigger]

This is interesting. Four good purses on Thursday and none on Friday. No Mohawk on Thursday. Will M1 handle 2 million?

Will they hit a $1mil, and about 55% of that would be CAW.

Disgusting!

Not a penny of my dough! 

[dougie]

So are you getting enough corruption, blind, stupid shit in your life because if not I'm sure there's more out there you can find besides football and racing. 

A lot more. I equate much of harness racing legitimacy on the same par as my days watching/betting Jai-Alai at Dania. LOL! As for pro-sports like football, I think many of those players are betting big bucks on the side.

[Trigger]

A lot more. I equate much of harness racing legitimacy on the same par as my days watching/betting Jai-Alai at Dania. LOL! As for pro-sports like football, I think many of those players are betting big bucks on the side.

A chance to lose their giant salaries, sponsors, their rep, their job, possibly go to jail too...do it.

[dougie]

Kinda like poor Odell Beckham Jr. whose can't seem to get by on the 100 million he's earned. A lot of fans chuckled at that one! LOL! I wouldn't bet no over/under on him! LOL!
 

[wizardofoz]

Listen fuckface, Mike is the nice guy.

I'm not.

You want to shill for druggers and cheaters, CAW who are welcomed with opened arms by that greedy decrepit old cunt, you've done that.

That's ok, but venting not  .

You're censoring nobody, just antagonizing.

You proved my point.

[Trigger]

The Meadowlands Racetrack 

"The Meadowlands Racetrack
does not make a profit from its horse racing operations alone; it operates at a significant loss and requires substantial state subsidies and revenue from sports betting to cover operating costs and purses. The owner has explicitly stated the venue is not profitable on its own.
Financial Realities

    Operating Losses: The racetrack consistently incurs losses from its core racing business. In 2024, an additional $11.5 million from sports betting revenue was used to cover these operating losses.
    State Subsidies: The Meadowlands, along with Monmouth Park, relies heavily on an annual pool of $20 million in state taxpayer money designated to subsidize horse racing purses. The owner, Jeff Gural, has indicated they "couldn't survive" without this state aid. (Welfare Billionaire Jeff  )
    Declining Revenue: Handle (total money wagered) on horse racing has been in decline for years, making it harder for the revenue generated to sustain current purse levels or operational expenses.
    Sports Betting Revenue: The partnership with FanDuel for sports betting provides crucial ancillary revenue. A portion of this revenue is mandated to go towards purses, and the remainder helps cover the operational shortfall.
    Future Uncertainty: The current subsidies are set to continue through 2029, but the owner has emphasized the need for a casino license at the Meadowlands for the long-term survival of the racetrack and the sport in New Jersey.

In essence, the Meadowlands complex generates significant overall tax revenue for the state of New Jersey, but the racetrack division itself requires external funding to remain operational."

[wizardofoz]

RACE 8 - Meadowlands - NJ - December 4, 2025*** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS ***
Conditions: "EXIT 16W" POP UP SERIES Winners of 4 But Not More Than 7 (F&M, N/W L3 or 3 YO Extended PM Races or $100,000 Life as of 11/15 Legs 12/4 & 12/11 - Final 12/18 for $37,500
Gait: TrotPurse: 27,500 Class: 5u w4-nw7Distance: 1 Mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 28-1
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
6    A Real Legend    6    1°/H    2/1Q    3/1T    2/1H    1/1   1:53.4    27.2   *0.80     Jason Bartlett    Melanie Wrenn
3    Hey Porter
 3, Bar Hopping-
 Chelsees A Winner    3    4/2    4/4    2°/1    1/1H    2/1   1:54.0    27.4   4.30     Brett Beckwith    Enrico Robinson
4    Scudo Hanover
 3, International Moni-
 Shared Past    4    2/H    3/2T    5/3H    4/3    3/2H   1:54.1    27.3   2.20     Braxten Boyd    Robert Baggitt Jr
1    Kovu As    1    5/3Q    5/5Q    7/5H    5/4H    4/6H   1:55.0    28.0   41.00     Joe Bongiorno    Anthony Faulkner
5    Snowman Hanover    5    7/6Q    7/7T    6°/4H    6/5Q    5/7Q   1:55.1    28.2   57.00     Patrick Ryder    Richard Aiken
7    Queen Of America S    7    3°/1    1/1Q    1/1    3/1H    6/8   1:55.2    29.2   13.60     Johnathan Ahle    Noel Daley
2    White Shoe Hanover    2    6/4T    6°/6H    4°/2T    7/5H    7/9H   1:55.3    29.0   16.30     Tyler Miller    Julie Miller
8    P L Quinella    8    X8X/10Q    8/17T    8/25H    8/30H    8/50   2:03.4    32.4   110.00     Bradley Chisholm    Anthony Faulkner
Time:    28.3   56.3    (28.0)   1:26.0    (29.2)   1:53.4    (27.4)    
 
RACE 9 - Meadowlands - NJ - December 4, 2025*** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS ***
Conditions: "EXIT 16W" POP UP SERIES 2 & 3 Year Old Fillies N/W $25,000 (N/W L2 or NJSO $30,000) Life as of 11/15 Legs 12/4 & 12/11 - Final 12/18 for $32,500
Gait: PacePurse: 23,175 Class: nw 25000LT Distance: 1 Mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 28-1
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
7    Luisa Hanover
 2, Captaintreacherou s-
 Lillian Hanover    7    4/3    4/3T    5/3T    4/3Q    1/T   1:53.3    28.1   1.80     Jason Bartlett    Tony Alagna
1    She Stings
 2, Perfect Sting-Lady Lou    1    1/Q    2/1Q    2°/1    2/H    2/T   1:53.4    29.0   7.50     Brett Beckwith    Cory Stratton
3    Cover The Crown
 3, Courtly Choice-
 Always Covers    3    7/8    7°/7H    6°/4    6/4    3/2Q   1:54.0    28.3   26.10     Bradley Chisholm    Darran Cassar
11    Turn Up The Music
 3, Tall Dark Stranger-
 Dance Blue    [11    6/6H    6°/6Q    4°/2H    3/2H    4/2H   1:54.0    29.0   30.20     Steve Smith    Joe Bongiorno
8    Abbys Dance
 3, Papi Rob Hanover-
 Moonlit Dance    8    2°/Q    1/1Q    1/1    1/H    5/3H   1:54.1    29.3   *1.00     Joe Bongiorno    Joe Bongiorno
5    Sweet Sweet Time
 2, Sweet Lou-
 As Time Goes By    5    3/1Q    3/2H    3/2H    5/3H    6/4H   1:54.2    29.2   42.60     Anibal Borjas    Tony Alagna
10    House Blend
 3, Philos Hanover-
 Kahlua Queen    10    11/15Q    9°/10    7°°/5Q    7/5H    7/6Q   1:54.4    29.1   53.10     Patrick Ryder    Thomas Cancelliere
6    Sweet Mary Lou
 2, Sweet Lou-World Apart    6    9/11Q    10/10Q    10/8Q    8/6T    8/6T   1:55.0    28.4   8.80     Johnathan Ahle    Tony Alagna
4    Buildmeupbuttercu p
 3, He`s Watching-
 Classy Hidden Rose    4    8/9Q    8/8H    9°/7Q    9/9Q    9/13H   1:56.1    30.1   64.90     Jacob Cutting    Anthony Regina
2    Helen Back Again
 3, Lazarus N-Swifty Nifty    2    5/5Q    5/5Q    8/6Q    10/9T    10/16Q   1:56.4    31.0   56.90     Braxten Boyd    Jenna Cornelison
9    Blue Jean Baby
 3, Arthur Blue Chip-
 St Lads Billiejean    9    10/13T    11/13    11/13Q    11/19T    11/31   1:59.4    32.3   75.00     Tyler Miller    John Stubits
Time:    27.1   55.2    (28.1)   1:24.3    (29.1)   1:53.3    (29.0)       

[wizardofoz]

Bartlett won BOTH of his drives tonight.  The handle was over $1.5 million as well.

[Trigger]

You proved my point.

Change your diaper and try not to be so irritated. 

No one with a brain agrees with you, definitely not one fucking real gambler, honest horseman unless they are a loser too! 

If a horse could talk they'd kick you in the head, deservingly. 

Over 50% of the @ $1.430 mil handle tonight was CAW.  CAW CAW CAW and CAW! 

You are a lowlife scumbag go suck Jeff's shitty asshole, cuntface!   

Lastly, drop dead!