Noble banned for life

[Kenny]

The usta news feed is down and has been for days. I wonder if there will be anything on the fines and suspensions list. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see they had high octane fuel. I'm just curious if Christi is completely banded or if Dan can drive in Ohio, just not her horses or just a total banding for both. Neither are listed the first 2 days of Dayton's meet. I want all the facts, not just speculation and it would be nice if the USTA or OHHA would at least come out with a statement and not leave everyone in the dark. If true it definitely opens the door into the state with drivers and trainers both. Next year David Miller will fill the void. Trace Tetrick usually drives at the end of Dayton's meet and Miami Valley once Hoosier closes.Maybe the Bongiorno crime family might come here. They would fit right in

The performance of his horses is grounds for investigation not convection.  There is a difference.  Performance does not prove wrongdoing. Of course, as private businesses, any track can ban anyone they want.

At WEG they would have some trainers race all their horses out of detention. Without physical evidence such as test results, that would seem to be the appropriate measure here.

[Dr. O]

Why so much animosity for this guy? There are trainers doing the same thing with bigger stables. They take much more money away from the little guy.  Everyone is upset because he beats the bigger stables?

[Kenny]

Why so much animosity for this guy? There are trainers doing the same thing with bigger stables. They take much more money away from the little guy.  Everyone is upset because he beats the bigger stables?

This board is overwhelmingly negative about just about everything and everyone. Some people get off hating on others.

[brownmoose13]

Why so much animosity for this guy? There are trainers doing the same thing with bigger stables. They take much more money away from the little guy.  Everyone is upset because he beats the bigger stables?

Not defending ANY trainer but the stupidity to have 4 horses in to race and the slowest winning in 47.4. I am sure others do it but are not nearly as blatant as dumb and dumber. If he truly was not using anything then they all should race back within 1 second of the 47 miles. Are you holding your breath?

[JT]

I don't hold animosity towards anyone..nor am I their judge and jury. I just want all the facts to come out. 4 horses in one night going  in 147 that have no business going that fast is beyond the realm. Race those 4 at Lexington next week under detention and see how fast they go. That would give ya all the evidence you needed

[Brown jug]

i agree investigation is not conviction
there needs to be far more investigation  in this sport overall
regulatory standards are a joke
preventive investigation/monitoring would be a good start
off track random testing for a start
unannounced random search of trucks and trailers at the track
in this case it appears noble kind of went too far
when a barn gets on a heater that looks too good to be true it usually is
so before it gets to this stage they should notify the trainer and talk to them as to why the drastic turnaround and drop in times
also when a barn gets like that tell them that for the next week they are racing out of detention barn
in addition to that tracks should randomly pick trainers and just tell them that for the next 7 days they are racing out of detention, that is a preventive measure, if their horses show a significant decline in performance than investigate further

most of these issues can be addressed and hopefully mitigate the nonsense/cheating that goes on

[tiny tequila]

You need evidence? Parked to the half in 51.3 and wins in 147. Please tell me of another horse race with fractions like this (and parked-out), where the winner draws off in 147. Maybe there is one, but I can't remember it.

[JT]

You need evidence? Parked to the half in 51.3 and wins in 147. Please tell me of another horse race with fractions like this (and parked-out), where the winner draws off in 147. Maybe there is one, but I can't remember it.

Somebeachsomewhere could not even pull that off in the Pace against Art Official 

[Yonkers1A]

You need evidence? Parked to the half in 51.3 and wins in 147. Please tell me of another horse race with fractions like this (and parked-out), where the winner draws off in 147. Maybe there is one, but I can't remember it.

These people think Oakes and Fishman were a one off. It’s more like 90%, the game is toast

[Dr. O]

Burke won jug and juggette on cruise control. No one has questioned that. I don’t know Burke or noble. Definitely appears to be bias against noble.

[JT]

Burke won jug and juggette on cruise control. No one has questioned that. I don’t know Burke or noble. Definitely appears to be bias against noble.

I am not a Burke fan by any means, and the topic of him has been beaten to death on this forum.. but those 2 horses you mentioned were in a detention barn which is much more strict after the yogurt incident by Cassie with Betting Line

[tiny tequila]

In my opinion, it comes down to this. Racing at Scioto Downs is not a "right" but a "privilege". Danny's privilege has been revoked. No due process is needed. 

[NOTHING BUT TRUTHS]

Didn't he set 4 track records in 4 races. Cmon guys. Don't be naive.  Or maybe itvwas just good luck. Or maybe he "pulled their shoes"  dumbest thing ever.

[Harness racer]

Argue all you want, the tracks can ban him without giving him a reason.  They told him you are no longer welcome here.  Racing is a privilege, not a right.  The sooner you some of you people learn that the better you will be! 

[MIKE P]

GOING TO POCONO WITH THE REST OF THE JUICERS