The Real Jeff Gural

[Papillon]

Who pulled shoes that day other than Svanstedt?
Onajetplane did.
Since you say plenty did, can you name another 3 or 4?

they did mention a couple of others other than NC and MMsDream

Ake pulled them at least one other that lost

[pocketrocketwinner]

they did mention a couple of others other than NC and MMsDream

Ake pulled them at least one other that lost

Ake pulled them in race 3 and won in a form reversal with live money.
Point is l. Majority of horses with shoes pulled were from the same barn.
They say all these other horsemen wanted the track saturated along with Svansdetd. That's their defense. I just happen to not buy the story. Many others dont either.

[Papillon]

amazing that Sarah tells M1 track maintenance how and what to do

Gural had a slip of the tongue shedding light on how it truthfully played out

he was a on a natural high and was drunk on adrenaline

[pocketrocketwinner]

amazing that Sarah tells M1 track maintenance how and what to do

Gural had a slip of the tongue shedding light on how it truthfully played out

he was a on a natural high and was drunk on adrenaline

I agree with this 100%
It wasn't done as a joke or in jest. It was done cause he was excited and emotional which gave him a dose of truth serum.
All that doesn't matter to me though.
What matters is that the track man is employed by gural. And gurals trainers contacts the track man and requests the track be manipulated a certain way to accommodate the way a barefott horse's performance is maximized.
What is that trackman supposed to do? Say no? To his employers trainer? He can't do that. At the very least he should never be in that position.

I can't say it enough. No way can 1 man be bigger than the industry. Track owners also acting as active participants is sure failure.

[Parked]

So he had the track so it favored his horse and then snuck in a pacing bred trotter to horrify the blue bloods ?   I love it. 

[Papillon]

I agree with this 100%
It wasn't done as a joke or in jest. It was done cause he was excited and emotional which gave him a dose of truth serum.
All that doesn't matter to me though.
What matters is that the track man is employed by gural. And gurals trainers contacts the track man and requests the track be manipulated a certain way to accommodate the way a barefott horse's performance is maximized.
What is that trackman supposed to do? Say no? To his employers trainer? He can't do that. At the very least he shouulesld never be in that position.

I can't say it enough. No way can 1 man be bigger than the industry. Track owners also acting as active participants is sure failure.

absolutely that's what happened

he was high as a kite and just blurted the truth out like a drunk-no inhibitions

[SDST2009]

Who pulled shoes that day other than Svanstedt?
Onajetplane did.
Since you say plenty did, can you name another 3 or 4?

That is not what I said. I said nothing about that day in particular. I said plenty of trainers DO pull shoes on that track. That track being the Meadowlands.

[Papillon]

So he had the track so it favored his horse and then snuck in a pacing bred trotter to horrify the blue bloods ?   I love it.

He only owns 10% I don't think he calls those shots but it is possible

the "blue bloods" don't seem to mind the crossover anymore--they saw what Hans did with Googoo Gaagaa and now he has been standing in Sweden for at least a handful of years-it appears they don't mind the pacing blood(Cams Rocket?) mixing with their trotting bloodlines

[Cashout]

        Alot of trainers pull shoes for big races ,  the bone of contention is him manicuring the track surface to how his horse likes it.   All this nonsense that he made the comment in jest is a bunch of bull

[SDST2009]

He only owns 10% I don't think he calls those shots but it is possible

the "blue bloods" don't seem to mind the crossover anymore--they saw what Hans did with Googoo Gaagaa and now he has been standing in Sweden for at least a handful of years-it appears they don't mind the pacing blood(Cams Rocket?) mixing with their trotting bloodlines

If I am not mistaken there were two Googoo Gaagaas in the Elitlopp this year, which is a feat.

Mixing pacing & trotting blood certainly seems to have its place. Back in the days certain sires regularly produced trotters and pacers both with some talent. Who can say exactly why it works, but maybe in part, trotters nowadays are so good-gaited that if you pepper in some of the inherent speed of pacers, you can hit paydirt.

[SDST2009]

        Alot of trainers pull shoes for big races ,  the bone of contention is him manicuring the track surface to how his horse likes it.   All this nonsense that he made the comment in jest is a bunch of bull

But, any horse without shoes is going to want a soft surface, not like it was manicured for NC and NC alone. He should not have said that, 100% agree with you, there, though.

[Parked]

If I am not mistaken there were two Googoo Gaagaas in the Elitlopp this year, which is a feat.

Mixing pacing & trotting blood certainly seems to have its place. Back in the days certain sires regularly produced trotters and pacers both with some talent. Who can say exactly why it works, but maybe in part, trotters nowadays are so good-gaited that if you pepper in some of the inherent speed of pacers, you can hit paydirt.

Back in the days… we saw a lot of trotting bred pacers. Screw ups at the breeding farms ??   

[Third Over]

Pacing bred trotter Six Day War is the horse that started to put Mark Ford on the map to financial freedom..

[Papillon]

Pacing bred trotter Six Day War is the horse that started to put Mark Ford on the map to financial freedom..

Six Day War was a top level horse-great memory

I did not know Ford was involved

[comeonman]

it was ray scihiktner