Ron Burke

[OF JENNY]

His positives are minimal as a percentage of horses he races.

Look bro. One is too many. Be responsible for what you train.

[Pacer 2]

Mistakes happen. Not even Burke is perfect.

[OF JENNY]

Mistakes?

[SDST2009]

Look bro. One is too many. Be responsible for what you train.

Here's the other piece I don't get. I hear rumblings on here of other big names using EPO-esque things ("Swedish Blood Builders," I think I have heard it called). Why do y'all think if others have it, this trainer doesn't?

[OF JENNY]

I accidentally gave my horse a drug via needle and syringe.

If we are honest the vet has all of burkes shit. The vet administers what Ronnie says. I highly doubt Ronnie hits the pipe on his own any more. The vets will do whatever you ask.
Including tubing on race day. I've seen it done. Many times.

[Ramnap]

My guess is they go to his recovery barn and get epo once a week and bpc157.tb500.ghk-cu daily for 3-4 weeks then they run off for about 2 months then back for another recovery treatment. Damn stuff is cheap n everywhere these days.

[SDST2009]

I accidentally gave my horse a drug via needle and syringe.

If we are honest the vet has all of burkes shit. The vet administers what Ronnie says. I highly doubt Ronnie hits the pipe on his own any more. The vets will do whatever you ask.
Including tubing on race day. I've seen it done. Many times.

Spot on.

[Harnesspower]

That is well said SDST2009.The ones that come on here & act tough are 1) cheaters or 2) benefiting from the cheats. Making money hurting horses is not something to brag about.
I love all animals & hate to see any harmed.
That is my opinion on the subject.

Honest question, Atlanta was Owned/trained by Rick Zeron scott zerons dad—-Rick was suspended because he was caught with needles and syringes, Howard Taylor owned Atlanta, buck i st pat, etc….
Do you think Howard Taylor bought the illegal PED’s and for these horses did NOT use them?
Foiled again these horses above raced huge unexplained races….and it appeared to be unnatural ….
Is it possible that Little E stables could utilize selected testing for unnatural PED’s and NOT hold Ake accountable because it’s a conflict of interest?
I don’t know but this “sport” is trending to the dog racing greyhound days where today there are no dog racetracks in the USA

[Pacer 2]

My guess is they go to his recovery barn and get epo once a week and bpc157.tb500.ghk-cu daily for 3-4 weeks then they run off for about 2 months then back for another recovery treatment. Damn stuff is cheap n everywhere these days.

  You have quite an imagination! 

[Papillon]

Honest question, Atlanta was Owned/trained by Rick Zeron scott zerons dad—-Rick was suspended because he was caught with needles and syringes, Howard Taylor owned Atlanta, buck i st pat, etc….
Do you think Howard Taylor bought the illegal PED’s and for these horses did NOT use them?
Foiled again these horses above raced huge unexplained races….and it appeared to be unnatural ….
Is it possible that Little E stables could utilize selected testing for unnatural PED’s and NOT hold Ake accountable because it’s a conflict of interest?
I don’t know but this “sport” is trending to the dog racing greyhound days where today there are no dog racetracks in the USA

there are still two dog tracks remaining--both in West Va(Wheeling and Mardi Gras) and they wont last much longer

[AgentQ]

And neither will harness racing, with the possible exception Ohio and Kentucky. All the other regions, if they survive will be strictly fair-type tracks where the locals do it for fun. This is what happens when you have horrendous racetrack management, non-existent leadership from horsemen's associations, indifferent racing commissions and just a general lack of moving with the times. Until a complete cleanse happens, and it will not, this sport will continue to contract.

[Papillon]

And neither will harness racing, with the possible exception Ohio and Kentucky. All the other regions, if they survive will be strictly fair-type tracks where the locals do it for fun. This is what happens when you have horrendous racetrack management, non-existent leadership from horsemen's associations, indifferent racing commissions and just a general lack of moving with the times. Until a complete cleanse happens, and it will not, this sport will continue to contract.

this is accurate--Ohio and Kentucky will have the last tracks standing

[JT]

there are still two dog tracks remaining--both in West Va(Wheeling and Mardi Gras) and they wont last much longer

Usually I agree with ya Pap, but not in this case. All of my wife's family is from the Wheeling area. She has a couple family members that work at the dog track and have for 20 or 30 years.. lets just say are higher ups. They handle a ton of money each card, way more then harness racing. They sometimes run an afternoon and evening card as well. I can't speak for the other WV track, but in Wheeling they know they are pretty much the last track standing, so they are on there "best behavior." Not to mention it is West Virginia after all.

[Papillon]

Usually I agree with ya Pap, but not in this case. All of my wife's family is from the Wheeling area. She has a couple family members that work at the dog track and have for 20 or 30 years.. lets just say are higher ups. They handle a ton of money each card, way more then harness racing. They sometimes run an afternoon and evening card as well. I can't speak for the other WV track, but in Wheeling they know they are pretty much the last track standing, so they are on there "best behavior." Not to mention it is West Virginia after all.

i hear ya and thanks for the insight

from what i have been hearing--Wheeling has a few years left on their contract-but i know very little about the future of dog racing

i will try and find an article on Wheeling

thanks again

[Papillon]

U.S.A.

In 2021, Congress introduced H.R. 3335, an amendment to the Wire Act, prohibiting any wire communications connected to commercial greyhound racing. Adopting this Act, known as “The Greyhound Protection Act of 2021,” is one of the final steps the U.S. must take in the process of fully outlawing dog racing. The U.S. is currently home to only 2 active dog racing tracks. For these tracks, approximately 2,000 greyhounds are still bred to race. Although this is a significant improvement over the 26,000 hounds bred 20 years ago, the excess of greyhounds bred for racing will still lead to many unnecessary deaths in the U.S..

Only eight U.S. states still technically allow legalized greyhound racing, and only West Virginia has open tracks. Florida, Arkansas, and West Virginia are three of the most recent states to tackle this issue. Florida, which was once the “heart, lungs, and legs of the industry,” home to 2/3 of the country’s racetracks, passed an amendment to their constitution in November 2018 that ceased operations at all remaining tracks. This amendment completely shut down greyhound racing as of 2020 in Florida, without the intervention of the federal “Greyhound Protection Act.” Florida was the first U.S. state to legalize pari-mutuel betting and dog-racing in 1931, and the sport was once widely supported by the Floridian public. The amendment, which passed by a 2:1 landslide, is demonstrative of how dramatically the American sentiment towards dog-racing has changed.

In Arkansas, people have been more hesitant to accept changing attitudes around dog-racing, and the local laws reflect that hesitation. Greyhound racing in Arkansas has gone on for over 100 years, and many have built their livelihoods around the dogs. The state economy has benefited tremendously from gambling for years, bringing in around $30 million annually. Although there has been no formal rulemaking in Arkansas on the state of their racetracks, one of the primary remaining racetracks in Arkansas, Southland Casino, has agreed to phase out the racing over the next three years. Dave Wolf, president of Southland, reasons that the sport has primarily been supported by older clientele and was beginning to shrink naturally. This decision comes with a lot of emotion for Arkansans, considering the track opened in 1935 upon the legalization of pari-mutuel betting, and has housed greyhounds ever since. Even without formal legislation, it seems that Arkansas naturally moved in the direction of eliminating dog racing, and recognized that the pros do not outweigh the cons of this industry. This shows that even without government intervention, media and lobbying pressure can make a tremendous impact on public issues.

West Virginia is the only U.S. state that still has active commercial greyhound racing in 2022. West Virginia continues to house two tracks, which run races five days a week year-round. The president of the West Virginia Kennel Owners Association claims that the state is intent on keeping the sport going. Several other U.S. states continue to stream the races from West Virginia into their casinos, finding a loophole in the illegalization in their states. If the Greyhound Protection Act were to pass in Congress, West Virginia would be forced to close the remaining tracks, and any simulcasting or gambling on dogs in other countries would also become illegal in the U.S.. Forcing this decision onto West Virginia, besides raising federalism concerns, could also raise concerns for the dogs as the tracks would likely close rapidly with little cooperation, leaving many dogs without homes. The best course of action for the dogs, and the employees dependent on the race-tracks, would be to introduce a “phasing out” system as Arkansas took on, to avoid the sudden bottoming out of the industry. Overall, it appears dog-racing in the U.S. is well on its way to legal extinction, but the final step to cover West Virginia and the virtual space will likely require federal action.